The podcast goes on the road for a live conversation with USC director of operations Mike Swets. Swets was a part of the greatest single-season turnaround in NCAA history at Towson which we discuss at length as well as Andy Enfield's ability to instill confidence and how that has lead to success at USC. We also talk about the differences between being a mid-major DOBO vs a high-major DOBO and how the position teaches you how to run a program and prepares you to become a head coach.