Imagine if we electrified the country and ditched fossil fuels? It is a compelling vision of a world where Aotearoa New Zealand stands apart as an example that other counntries could then follow with major positive impact for the planet. And it is possible with the right policy settings in place.

Mike Casey from Rewiring Aotearoa and I discuss this and a whole lot more in this wide ranging conversation - from his early days in Wellington to his entrepreneurial journey and how to get through the hard times, planting a 9,000+ cherry tree farm in Otago and then making it all electric with no fossil fuel vehicles, lessons along the way - we really cover a lot in this conversation.

The Rewiring Aotearoa movement is producing quality research and information on moving from fossil fuels for the benefit of the climate and to save people money at the same time - it has been fun to be part of that journey as the lawyer who helped get it set up and registered as a charity and am still involved today providing legal support. So it was great to sit down with Mike to hear his stories.

Shoutout to former guest on Seeds podcast Louise Aitken who first introduced us! Her interview is here.

Rewiring Aotearoa website: https://www.rewiring.nz/

Some of the publications we mentioned are here:

Investing in Tomorrow https://www.rewiring.nz/tomorrow

Electric Homes report https://www.rewiring.nz/electric-homes-report

"Rewiring Aotearoa represents everyday New Zealanders in the energy transition and is working to build an electrified future where every Kiwi saves money on energy bills, reduces their carbon emissions and has the resilience to keep their lights on and homes warm. Let's make New Zealand more electric!"

Conversation with Dr Jay Matenga mentioned in this: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ysxkxCszFsOhEQqAS0Zu4