Mind the Shift

What is complementary and alternative medicine and treatments (CAM)? The definitions vary in different parts of the world.

”But at least here in Denmark, the definition is not based on evidence, on whether it works or not, but on the formal status of what is being done”, says Jesper Odde Madsen, who is a guest on the podcast for the second time.

Jesper is a Danish science journalist and communication consultant with a focus on complementary and alternative medicine. He has an affiliation with the Galileo Commission, whose aim it is to expand science and free it from its underlying materialist assumptions.

To what extent different kinds of CAM are accepted, or tolerated, also varies widely. Yoga and massage are popular. Homeopathy is a no-go zone in most of the West, whereas it is considered more or less normal in India.

Conducting research on CAM is an uphill battle. Jesper Madsen talks of four main obstacles.

”There is no money in it. You can't get a patent by treating people with reflexology or acupuncture. You won’t make a career of studying these methods. There are no international organizations to back this up. And communication between the stakeholders is random or at least limited.”

There is also a methodological dilemma when it comes to conducting CAM studies: The holy grail of western medical research is to employ RCT, randomized control trials, to show whether a treatment works or not.

”But here is a secret: When you want to study something, you should choose the trial method that's suitable for the thing you want to investigate. This truth has been kept away.”

”All governments listen to mainstream doctors. And mainstream doctors say: we must have RCT. Amen.”

Alternative practitioners have a holistic approach. Before they apply their treatment, they learn things about every individual patient. And afterwards they talk to the patient and give advice.

”The point is that most alternative treatments consist of several parts, and only one of them is the technical fix, like needles in your arm”, says Jesper.

”There is nothing wrong with RCT but you have to start with the research question and analyze the issue before you make the choice of which investigation design to use.”

If you make the method in itself a criterion of quality, then it is a question of belief, according to Jesper Madsen.

”And that is exactly what I have heard medical doctors say about alternative treatments: that they are beliefs, almost religious.”

Is the placebo effect in essence an alternative treatment that the mainstream is using without knowing it?

”Yes. I am happy about the growing interest in studying the placebo. Even many doctors say today that this is more than just noise. There is a link between the psyche and the physical body. It would be great if we could take this seriously. But it will be difficult to make money on it.”

Why are journalists reluctant to cover CAM in a neutral way? Are they also afraid of being ridiculed?

”I have been asking myself this question for years. Journalists tend to go to the usual mainstream sources. They tend to have a belief in authorities. I think this has been shown during the pandemic.”

How to break the materialist paradigm, take down the ”wall”?

”It is not a question of evidence. We have the evidence. It is a question of reaching a critical mass of people and events. Maybe even that some researchers die and the younger ones think differently.”

Personal website (English)

Non-profit website & newsletter about CAM

The Galileo Commission

Presentation & speech, World Health Congress, Prague, 2021

Philosophy is life. It is always present in life. In a way, every human being is a philosopher. But we also have collective thinking and collective experiences, and that's what a professional philosopher deals with.

Philosophy professor Jonna Bornemark works at the Center for Studies in Practical Knowledge at Södertörn university in Stockholm. Many Swedes have come to appreciate her everyday approach to philosophy. She often appears in the media.

A couple of years ago she released a book about judgment that was much discussed, and her latest book, about pregnancy, was on the shelves a few days before this conversation.

Jonna Bornemark argues that the room for judgment has shrunk in modern professional life. And the room for action.

”To follow a manual is not to act”, she says.

In every profession there is a space for collective judgment. Professional knowledge can be developed within this space, according to Bornemark.

We sometimes talk about judgment as a personal characteristic.

”I think  that is unfortunate. Instead, it is a kind of knowledge. We can be differently skilled at it.”

Jonna Bornemark hesitates to liken judgment with intuition. And she does not like the concept of ’following one’s gut feeling’.

”To follow only one source of knowledge, your feeling, is not judgment. We should follow as many sources of knowledge as possible.”

Often we have to act fast, and sometimes we just have a sense that we must act in a certain way.

”That may seem like acting on gut feeling, but when you look at it closer, it is much more.”

”To have judgment is to be intimately in touch with the newness of every situation. To be able to always act without knowing everything.”

Not-knowingness fills Jonna Bornemark with a euphoric feeling.

”It means we can always explore more. To some it may trigger anxiety because you are not in control. To me it is mainly positive.”

The constantly moving horizons of uncertainty and of not knowing are the lifeblood of science, but the scientific and educational systems are bad at acknowledging this, Bornemark thinks.

Sometimes we need to use our judgment to deal with conflicting forces. Jonna Bornemark has coined the term ”pactivity” for situations where we are passive and active at the same time. She first felt the need for such a concept when she tried to understand the experience of giving birth.

”The labor pain was not mine. It belonged to life itself. I experienced it like some kind of monster going through me. But I had to not object to it, that would have been dangerous. I had to continue its movement in order to give birth. So I wasn't purely active and I wasn't purely passive. I was pactive.”

When does life begin?

”It is a continuum. To draw a line, to give it a timestamp, is just a human desire. The logic of life is the logic of a continuum. That is why we need to look at the question of abortion anew.”

The fetus probably doesn't have the sense of ’I’. Even a newborn displays a sense of oneness. When does the sense of a separate self begin? Is it conditioned? Is it possible to maintain the sense of oneness throughout life? Those are questions we raise during this conversation.

Bornemark doesn’t like the reductionist materialism that is so prevalent in society.

”It is a poor worldview. And not true. But I like matter.”

”One way of responding to reductionist materialism could be to only emphasize the spiritual side, but my response is to work with the concept of matter, to re-understand what matter is: living, self-forming – and also including the spiritual side.”

Jonna’s university profile https://tinyurl.com/ywsh5bne

Jonna’s books https://volante.se/forfattare-och-talare/jonna-bornemark/

Bernardo Kastrup began as an accomplished computer engineer and AI developer. Today he is one of the most influential thinkers in the intersection between spirituality and science.

This episode is probably the most philosophically dense and intense so far. Kastrup covers so much ground it is impossible to do it justice in this brief description. Just dive in and listen. And stop once in a while to reflect.

Having said that, here are some highlights:

• On metaphysical idealism, which entails that the world is essentially mental:

”Just like your thoughts are mental, the physical world at large is made of mental processes, which present themselves on a screen of perception.”

”Everything is in consciousness. But that doesn't mean that everything is conscious.”

• On how human-like an intelligent artificial neural network can become:

”We have no reason whatsoever to believe that a silicon computer can ever have a private conscious inner life in the way that you and I have.”

• On the immense problems with materialism:

”You can not pull the qualities out of the quantities. You have to have only one thing. The quantities are descriptions of the qualities, not the generator of the qualities. Mass, spin, charge, momentum, amplitude etc are descriptions of mental processes.”

”Materialists are trying to pull the territory out of the map.”

• The whirlpool metaphor for human life (we are ”whirlpools” in an all-encompassing stream of water):

”We are localized aspects of consciousness within the greater ’mind-at-large’. A whirlpool is undoubtedly a thing of its own, but it is also obvious that it does not consist of anything other than water. This is why I can't read your thoughts and I don't know what's happening on the other side of the world right now despite that everything is in one universal mind.”

• The dashboard metaphor for the world:

”We are like pilots flying only by reading the instruments on the dashboard. And that is sufficient to fly safely. The dashboard is excellent at conveying accurate information about the world. But it isn't the world.”

”The pilot never makes the mistake of thinking that the dashboard is the world. But we make that mistake. We say the physical is the world, not a representation thereof. And that is incredibly naive.”

”So, what is the nature of the thing being measured? I think it's obvious: transpersonal mentation. Mental activity is the only thing we know. Everything else is a theory. An abstraction.”

”The brain doesn't have a standalone existence. It is a representation on the dashboard.  Your brain firing up neurons is what your thoughts look like when observed from the outside.”

• On why idealism gives meaning to life by postulating a continuation of consciousness beyond the physical death:

”Nothing is banal, nothing is temporary. Your experiences are not for nothing. They have contributed to the fabric of nature.”

”The intuition that we are rooted in nature is what is reflected in the golden thread that runs through thousands of years of mystical traditions.”

• On evolution:

”The evidence for natural selection is overwhelming. But the question is: is it the only mechanism necessary for evolution? To say that the genetic mutations are random is a statement of faith. The mutations might have a preferential direction. And a recent study shows that that is exactly what happens in nature. Nature is not shooting blindly.”

Bernardo’s website

His books

The Essentia foundation

Life was a winding road for happiness specialist Monique Rhodes before she found her calling. In her late teens she was so depressed she tried to take her own life. Then she traveled the world. For thirteen years, all she owned would fit in a bag. She lived in slums and castles, she criss-crossed India on a motorbike. She was also an accomplished singer-songwriter.

While in India, Monique understood by accident that she was a good meditation teacher. She began to develop a mindfulness meditation program that is now used at thirty universities and colleges around the world, the 10 Minute Mind. She has since developed other programs, like the Happiness Baseline. She runs a daily bite-sized podcast, In Your Right Mind. And she has worked with a number of well-known spiritual teachers and leaders, like Eckhart Tolle.

”Learning how to deal with your thoughts and emotions is difficult for young people. I asked myself, sitting in a hospital bed, why is it that some people are happy and that others, like me, are struggling so much? Is it something I can change? That's where all the adventures came from. And it completely transformed my life”, Monique says.

”Today I work with thousands of students around the world, teaching the things I wish we were taught when we were younger.”

So, what is the secret? Basically learning how to bring back the scattered mind to the present moment as often and as long as possible.

”Build a relationship with your mind, learn how to work with it. It’s problematic to dance away into the past and into the future. Those are places that don’t exist. The only moment that is real is now.”

”We live in our thoughts without connecting to our heart. We don’t know how to manage our minds.”

Monique reads a lot, she says.

”We have a propensity to not hold our focus for very long on specific things. Reading is a good antidote to that.”

The core of Monique Rhodes’ message is this: Happiness is a habit.

When we experience something we judge that and react to it based not on the present moment but on something in the past. It may remind us, subconsciously or consciously, of something that happened to us before, positive or negative.

”This is how we relate all the time.”

Meditation slows down that automated process.

”You begin to learn to be more in the present moment. Every moment we have a choice as to how to react.”

Many people think meditation is not only woo-woo but also difficult. It’s not. This is what meditation is, according to Monique Rhodes:

”Get your mind into the present moment. Your mind will go off, you bring it back. Your practice is in the bringing back. Every time you bring the mind back, you build a muscle.”

Monique Rhodes describes herself as habitually courageous, habitually positive, habitually grateful and someone who habitually sees the goodness in people.

”Because I have built a series of habits around this.”

At the same time it is important not to just sit in a glorious feeling of wellbeing all the time. The risk is that a kind of arrogance seeps in, as Monique puts it.

”We have a tendency not to see the light that exists in the negative things that arise and to fear the shadow side when positive things happen. But if you allow it all to just be, you can stay in a pretty happy place most of your life.”

Monique’s website

The 10 Minute Mind

In the Right Mind podcast

A few weeks into 2022, the Covid policies are shifting dramatically in many countries. Restrictions are being rolled back. This conversation with Nils Littorin is a bit like a posterior assessment of what worked and didn’t work during this huge health policy experiment.

Dr Littorin, a microbiologist, is the initiator of the so-called Doctors’ Appeal in Sweden (Läkaruppropet in Swedish), a manifestation against harmful restrictions and for the shielding of vulnerable groups. It is inspired by the Great Barrington Declaration, published in October 2020 by three professors at Oxford, Stanford and Harvard.

As of February 2022 around 25,000 people have signed the former and almost one million the latter.

Sweden has been the ”control group” in the global lockdown experiment, with far fewer restrictions than most other countries. But even here, many are frustrated.

”There is a pretty strong undercurrent of discontent with current covid policies also in this country, including vaccine passports”, Nils says.

”That tells you something. That tells you that these measures are not serving any good purpose.”

”I am for logical logical measures that protect the vulnerable. The measures that have been taken don't protect the vulnerable. No measures can stop the virus. It has been shown all over the world.”

”You cannot find any epidemiological studies that show that lockdowns or harsh restrictions work in the sense that they reduce the excess mortality. On the contrary, there is no correlation.”

”Unfortunately, a lot of politicians act and talk as if there is not only a correlation but a causal relationship between lockdowns and reducing the spread of the virus or deaths or hospitalizations”, he says.

Aside from the brain, the immune system is probably the most complex thing in the body. It is not defensible, says Littorin, to force onto people preliminarily approved medicines that affect bodily functions with such complexity.

But he is definitely not an anti-vaxer.

”I am not against these vaccines. Those who need them should take them. But it has to be by consent within a doctor-patient relationship.”

”I am worried that we are violating that trust now, that doctor-patient relationship. What will people expect from health authorities next time?”

”Because of the fear porn propagated by the mass media and careless politicians, many people believe that these vaccine passports protect them from transmission. If you look at the data, they don't, especially not now, with Omicron.”

In Nils Littorin’s view, the vaccine passports should be ”thrown in the garbage bin of history”.

”And the leaders who advocated them should sit beside the bin and contemplate how they could do it.”

For a human being life on earth begins when she takes her first breath. There are reasons why ancient traditions always emphasize the importance of breathing and posture.

”If breathing were only a matter of getting oxygen, then the best way would be to breathe in and out as quickly as possible”, says Paul J Scanlan, author of the book The Body Heat Fiasco.

Or to pick it up through gills, receptors or some other kind of bodily process, one might add.

We all know that quick breathing is bad. We feel better when we breathe calmly and deeply. But western medical science doesn't understand why. So why else do we breathe then?

In his book, independent researcher Paul Scanlan compellingly (and partly funnily) explains how breathing heats our bodies.

”Warming air is a defining feature of being alive”, Paul says.

The mechanism is amazingly straight-forward: squeezing air in the respiratory system. That a gas heats up when compressed is basic physics. For instance, a diesel engine doesn't have spark plugs. Instead, the piston squeezes the fuel mixture to ignition.

It is strange, when you think about it, how vague our knowledge about body heat generation is. And yet, we wouldn’t be able to live on this planet if our body temperature weren’t somehow kept at around 36.9 degrees Celsius.

According to the standard view, in warm-blooded animals like mammals and birds body heat is generated by a chemical burning, primarily within a fatty tissue called BAT. Thus, the reason why the air we exhale has body temperature is because it has been heated by the body.

According to Scanlan there are numerous gaps in the century-old standard model.

One example: Pigs and birds are warmblooded, but they don't have BAT.

Another example: If chemical reactions generated body heat, a chick in an egg close to hatching would be able to heat its own body, but it can’t, it is wholly dependent on its parents to keep warm (thus being ”coldblooded” until the moment it comes out of the egg and can breathe).

And when it comes to heating inhaled air, it actually works the other way around, says Paul:

”The warm body is assumed to warm 7.5 liters of air from, say, 2 degrees Celsius to 36.9 degrees Celsius every minute. If you had a tube through which the same amount of air flowed, known physics would say the tube needs to be pretty hot for the air to heat up that much by somehow just touching the sides of the tube. How hot? Let’s just say it has to be hotter than 36.9 degrees. But there is nothing between the nostrils and the lungs that is hotter than that!”

Some of the more compelling pieces of evidence in Scanlan’s book are about humans who are able to endure extreme cold. A case in point is ”the iceman”, Wim Hof.

”Hof does special things with his breathing. He can compress the air very well. But to get to that point he focuses on his alignment and meditation. The classic for meditation and yoga is concentrating on breathing.”

Paul Scanlan’s model doesn’t dismiss that some heat is generated by way of chemical processes, which is relevant in some contexts.

He has presented a couple of papers about his controversial findings and also had one published in a peer-reviewed journal. He has received polite response from the mainstream, but nothing more than that.

Actually, the golden thread in The Body Heat Fiasco, as well as in the two or three books Scanlan plans to write, is not breathing so much as tension. Or rather tensional integrity, for which breathing plays a pivotal part. His next book will explain how our vision works (he has been able to eliminate his own dependence on glasses). And after that he will take on cancer.

Book

Paper

Paul on Twitter

Researchers who dare to go outside the box and investigate phenomena that the mainstream dismisses because they are inexplicable are labeled ”pseudoscientists”. Those who question elements of the accepted scientific view are labeled ”conspiracy theorists”.

”And journalists who dare to contact one of those researchers and do an interview are contaminated with the same labels”, says Danish journalist and communicator Jesper Madsen.

”No wonder many journalists hesitate to write or broadcast anything that is not in line with official science”, he concludes.

When he was young, Madsen wanted to become an engineer. But during military service he changed course and decided he wanted to work in the humanities. Eventually he became a journalist.

Since childhood Jesper had had a fascination for mysteries and the mystical aspects of life.

A seven-week sojourn in San Francisco in 1996 turned out to be crucial. He met people with fascinating insights into the esoteric realm. He made his first contact with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences, with which Jesper is now affiliated (the first Danish community group).

He saw the need for a paradigm shift. But when he returned to Denmark with tons of notes, he found it difficult to know what to do with it. The mindset in Danish media was not very open to this kind of knowledge.

Soon thereafter, Jesper Madsen found himself in a meeting about alternative medicine. He realized that this was connected to what he had learned. So, during the last 20 years, he has specialized in complementary and alternative medicine.

It is well documented that many of the alternative medical treatments work, but if the standard double-blind trial is not employed, the results are ignored.

”To rely on only one investigative method is a matter of belief. They say that alternative medicine is based on belief, but this is also a belief. If you don't recognize the thinking behind the method you want to study, you won't understand why it works”, says Jesper and gives the salient example of homeopathy, which is vehemently rejected by the mainstream.

The placebo effect is well documented by standard science. In some cases it is very strong. It is mostly described as some kind of undesirable noise in studies, but what it actually shows is that our ability to heal ourselves (and make ourselves sick) is much larger than we have been led to believe.

All along, Jesper Madsen has had a profound interest in ”frontier science”, as he puts it.

”Now I feel somehow I want to go back to the basic, big questions”, he says.

His latest endeavor is an engagement with the Galileo Commission, an offshoot from The Scientific and Medical Network, which aims to encourage investigations beyond the materialist worldview. Jesper is involved in the creation of a network of open minded journalists.

”I put my faith in English speaking countries like the US and the UK, because here in Denmark today I don't think more than two or three journalists, aside from myself, are open to this.”

Links:

Galileo Commission

Scientific and Medical Network

Stanislav Grof

”ESP Wars East and West”

Edwin C. May

Institute of Noetic Sciences

Independent researchers are putting together a puzzle that is beginning to reveal a vastly different history than the one we are told in school. Especially concerning how far back in time civilization actually goes.

One of those independent researchers is Brien Foerster.

His fascination with the history of human civilization and culture began when he grew up in western Canada. He later moved to Hawaii and eventually to Peru, where he now lives. His quest for the origins of civilization has taken him to a hundred countries, and he organizes tours to megalithic sites in the former Inca lands, Egypt, Turkey and other places.

”I have followed my passion”, he says.

Brien has written 37 books about megalithic sites and hidden history, and he is an avid youtuber.

He is convinced, like many other maverick researchers, that the advanced megalithic structures around the world were not built by the cultures mainstream scientists say did it, but by much earlier and technologically much more advanced civilizations that perished.

In official history, it was the dynastic Egyptians who built the great pyramids and the Inca who built the most impressive walls and other structures in Peru and Bolivia where gigantic blocks of hard stone were put in place with exquisite precision.

But even the mainstream acknowledges that neither the Inca nor the dynastic Egyptians knew how to use steel, and much less diamond reinforced drills or saw blades. They only utilized bronze tools, and you cannot cut granite with bronze.

”The evidence is staring you in the face”, Brien Foerster says.

There is also growing evidence that a series of cataclysms occurred roughly 12,000 to 13,000 years ago which – in the view of Foerster and others – wiped out the civilizations of the megalithic builders.

One compelling circumstance is that at least 200 cultures around the world are talking about the destruction of their world by a flood of some kind.

Brien Foerster’s foremost contribution to the understanding of our origins is probably his research on the mysterious elongated skulls in Paracas, Peru.

The mainstream researchers say they are merely the result of head binding and other forms of cranial deformation. But that doesn't make sense when you study the oldest of them, which seem natural: their cranial volume is 25 percent larger than in a normal homo sapiens skull, a suture line is lacking, the eye sockets are larger and the foramen magnum, the hole connecting the skull with the neck, is placed two centimeters further back, presumably to balance the larger skulls.

Several of the skulls have been DNA analyzed, and it turns out they are related to other elongated skulls that have been found in the area of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea

This challenges the standard story of how America was populated.

”The enigma is that they suddenly appear, and then they disappear.”

Brien Foerster has probably investigated this enigma more profoundly than anybody else. Will he ever find the answer to who the people with the elongated skulls were?

”I haven't given up on it yet.”

Foerster is facing increasing limitations around his research in Peru and Bolivia, but Egypt is slowly opening up more.

In ten years time, a lot more eyes will be looking at the signs of a hidden ancient human history, Brien thinks.

Here is Brien Foerster’s website.

Below are four Youtube channels dedicated to alternative history that Brien endorses:

Uncharted X

Bright Insight

Jahannah James

History with Kayleigh

The online revolution has worked wonders to connect people, but we need to meet in the physical to really exchange energy and love and to find our inner power.

That was one of the insights Brady Gunn brought with him when he began standing in a park in Australia every Sunday between 10 and 11 am to simply silently manifest his truth and freedom.

”We’re all one, we're all drops in the same ocean”, Brady says.

The lockdown policies was the catalyst, but the peaceful standing manifestation grew to something wider. It is about celebrating ”freedom, diversity and fairness for all”, as it says on the subsequently created website for the fast growing movement, which got the name A Stand in the Park.

For three months Brady stood there alone. Then people started joining. After a few months, the movement migrated to the UK with the help of Brady’s friend Sophia (Fifi) Rose. There it took off quickly. The movement today encompasses more than 1,000 parks in 30 countries, whereof more than 700 in the UK alone.

”The mandatory covid passports has been a wake up call for many”, says Sophia.

Many of the ”park standers” have taken their jabs but feel the authorities are going too far now.

The police have largely left the movement alone, despite its formal violation of lockdown rules. It is difficult to mass arrest old ladies with pets and all kinds of other ordinary people who are not doing anything, just standing there.

However, Brady is strictly forbidden to promote the movement publicly.

Other covid policy protesters have been treated a lot worse by the police.

”They have done some irreparable damage. I don't think the Australian people will easily forgive them”, says Brady.

When it comes to what the measures that have been taken against the pandemic will eventually entail, including the jabs, Brady seems to have a gloomier outlook than Sophia.

”Things are a lot worse than in your worst nightmare”, he says and adds that he is skeptical towards what he sees as blind optimism.

Sophia has more sympathy for positive thinking, at least to the extent that it means shedding fear. Because fear is what is fuelling the top-down control of people.

Neither of the founders of A Stand in the Park are impressed with how the mainstream media is covering either their movement or any other current protest activities. And there are many. On November 20th hundreds of thousands of people demonstrated against lockdowns and mandates in dozens of countries.

”If they actually reported on it, people would be so empowered”, says Sophia.

They both think there is a spiritual battle going on

”This is why they want to stop us from coming together”, says Sophia.

”Our society is founded on fear; fear of the other, fear of what could happen, it's relentless. Ultimately, what's driving us is fear of death, which is an absolutely crazy avoidance.”

Is this a crucial time in history? Yes, says Brady:

”This is a massive spiritual war. It is an awakening.”

This linktree will guide you to A Stand in the Park’s website and social media handles as well as some other interviews with Brady and Fifi.

What if every guest inspired the host to write a song? This is exactly what happens on Jack Stafford’s podcast Podsongs. He kicked it off only last year and has already created a unique little universe of over 100 episodes and songs now. Lately, this universe has evolved into a collaborative project with guest musicians coming on.

Jack had been a musician for many years when the pandemic forced him to look for other outlets for his music. He talks to all kinds of inspirational people, but he has a mission: to bring spirituality to the centre stage and mysticism back into the mainstream.

Jack grew up in the UK but moved to Amsterdam, where he lived a toyboy lifestyle working as a copywriter, musician and fashion designer. However, this led to burnout, so Jack sold all his possessions and set off on a bicycle tour as a nomadic troubadour. He travelled through 45 countries, playing hundreds of house concerts in return for a place to sleep.

He recorded many of his crazy adventures in his songs, and through those—plus countless self-help books and podcasts, as well as yoga, Ayurveda and Vipassana meditation—he grew and grew to become a unique modern-day troubadour.

His spiritual awakening happened in India. It wasn’t a flash experience, it came gradually.

The person who showed him how to find a deeper reality was an American.

”You think you'll meet some Indian guru. But this man had been doing pranayamas and mantras since he was three years old. And he opened the door to George King and the Aetherius society. So there I am in India, learning about an Englishman via an American...”

The Aetherius society has since been at the centre of Jack Stafford’s spiritual quest. It is a small movement founded by George King in the 50s.

The teachings are fascinating but may appear mysterious to many people. Jack explains bits and pieces of it.

”If you're open to it, it's Buddhism and Christianity and UFOs and science, all wrapped into one bundle of joy”, he says with a smile.

”We are here to be of service. We are here to learn. We are in a classroom.”

Many spiritual people unwisely skip the material aspects of this earthly existence, Jack thinks.

”Many spiritual people just want to be in the bosom of their garden with fairies or meditate. They don’t think it is a spiritual way to get a science degree or start a business. But you can't learn metaphysics unless you master physics.”

”You can levitate if you do 15 years of yoga with mantra and pranayama. These are siddies you get. There is science behind that.”

However, once you have attained such siddies, you should deny them, he explains.

”When you master something, you don't use it. Because we are here to be of service.”

The teachings of George King and the Aetherius society centers not only around yoga but also extraterrestrial life.

”This is where it can get a little crazy. This is why I got into this gradually.”

There is physicality on every level of consciousness and light, according to Jack Stafford. When we die, we go to another realm, which is exactly here, but at a different frequency.

”If you go to another planet with our frequency, it can look like only dust, but in a higher realm, the same planet has cities, temples and spaceships. This is a key concept as to how UFOs and reincarnation are linked.”

According to Jack and the Aetherius teachings, some of the ETs visiting Earth may actually be us at a later, or higher, stage–the ”future us” showing up here and now, so to speak.

Podsongs

Mysticast (Jack’s other podcast)

The Aetherius society