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In this raw and heartfelt episode recorded just hours after Pope Francis's death, three Catholic commentators process their complex emotions about the end of a challenging 12-year pontificate. The conversation navigates the difficult balance between respectfully mourning a spiritual father while honestly acknowledging the pain many traditionalists experienced under his leadership.

"I really didn't think it would ever end," one host admits, capturing the shock felt by many Catholics worldwide. The discussion explores how Francis's papacy, while divisive, unintentionally fostered a revival of traditional Catholicism by driving faithful Catholics to deepen their understanding of the faith and form meaningful communities. "The three of us don't know each other without Francis," they realize, reflecting on how adversity created unexpected bonds.

The hosts offer a sobering perspective on the upcoming conclave, which they believe could be "one of the most consequential in Church history." Their analysis of potential papal candidates reveals both hope and concern about the Church's future direction, particularly for traditionalists who lost access to their liturgical traditions. One host provocatively suggests, "We're going to look back on the Francis pontificate with fondness," fearing that challenges could intensify under new leadership.

Beyond ecclesiastical politics, the conversation touches on deeply personal spiritual journeys through Lent, experiences watching The Passion with children, and the special circumstance of new Catholics who entered the Church at Easter only to witness a papal death the next day. Through it all runs a thread of faith in God's providence even in difficult times.

What will you take from this candid conversation about faith, leadership, and navigating religious turmoil? Listen now and join the discussion about this pivotal moment in Catholic history.

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