We used to live in OC and haven't for almost 5 years now.

Coming back into town for a quick vacation, it reminded us of past struggles and insecurities.

It is a culture dominated by people looking for status, importance, beauty, and ultimately looking for love in all the wrong places.

But we also believe christians can enter into shame and blame for a culture like this without knowing how to thrive and get needs met and be a light in the darkness.

This episode is a dialogue on our process around it.

Enjoy the crazy background noises and the occasional baby wimper.

And let us know what you enjoyed about it or what stuck out to you in the ratings!!