Welcome to More Christ. We seek to bring some of the world's most interesting and insightful guests to discuss life's central and abiding questions.  In this special eighty third episode in a series of discussions, I'm joined by Pastor Paul Vander Klay. 

This conversation took place at Benburb Priory in Ireland, as a part of Paul's European tour.   

We spoke about the church as a stumbling block to Christ, the role of Jordan Peterson in opening the door for people, Paul's burgeoning friendship with figures like Jonathan Pageau and John Vervaeke, the place of redemption in suffering, and much more besides.