Anita is thinking more and more about entering the club of motherhood. But first, she'd appreciate a reality check on things we don't often talk about — like child care and health concerns around pregnancy and labor.

Meet the guests:

- Angela Garbes, writer and author, talks about the cultural baggage surrounding American motherhood and how she separates the signal from the noise

- Dani McClain, journalist and author, outlines how racial bias shapes the personal and professional experiences of Black mothers

- Katherine Goldstein, journalist and creator of "The Double Shift," talks about rethinking the nuclear family

- Anita’s parents talk about the changes they’ve noticed in their aging bodies and how it’s affected their relationship.

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