Anita has heard one resounding truth from her friends who lost a parent in early adulthood: That death was the biggest thing that has ever happened to them. She meets two people who've built specific communities around their grief on the internet and a writer who experienced losing his dad twice.

Meet the guests:

- Liz Zorn, photographer and model, talks about the sudden loss of her father and how it's changed her views on the afterlife

- Naomi Edmondson, grief educator and space holder, shares how the experience of losing two mother figures in her 20s inspired her to create a community group for Black folks who are grieving

- Jeff Dingler, author and journalist, explains how he lost his father twice: first to mental illness when he was 14 and then to death when he was in his 20s

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Dig deeper:

Tough Times Guide

Naomi’s grief resources

Liz’s YouTube video, “What no one tells you about losing a parent”

Jeff’s Insider piece

Jeff’s piece about his mom