You know how you start talking gardening tools and next thing you know you’re swapping stories about how fathers born in the thirties never really talk about themselves? Well that happened in this week’s episode with Laura House’s guest co-host Laurie Kilmartin. Two victories in one tiny episode!

My First Shovel (ft. Laurie Kilmartin)

Tiny Victories is the 15 minute podcast that pushes back on the notion that you have to "go big" or "go home". Sometimes just going is the victory. Each week, hosts Annabelle Gurwitch and Laura House invite listeners to adopt a TINY victory frame of mind, and share tales of fleeting joys and minor accomplishments in this majorly messed-up world.

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