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- Episode 12: Love and Sex Addiction with Katie GrimesTrigger Warning: There are mentions of sex, sexual assault and rape in this episode.Katie Grimes is an entrepreneur, love, dating and sex coach, and overall badass. Her favorite place outdoors is the beach and the ocean.In this episode, we discuss:Her love of the beach and oceanHow Katie came to be in recoveryWhat her recovery looks like at this momentWhy it is important to know and understand your family’s mental health historyThe differences between love, sex and fantasy addictionsHow to show up more for people who are struggling with these addictions with compassion and understandingWhat led her to want to start coaching others on how to move through sex and love addictionsResources mentioned:Alcoholics AnonymousAdult Children of Alcoholics Anonymous40 Questions for Self Diagnosis - SLAADebtors AnonymousCatch up with Katie:WebsiteInstagramAnything For Love PodcastThank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.49 min
- Episode 11: Gaining An Extra Gear with Jon Totten
Jon Totten is an outdoor educator, guide, non-profit founder and seeker. He grew up on a dairy farm in Wisconsin and quickly moved to Idaho when he turned 18. He’s been working and adventuring in the outdoor world since. He is a river guy, a mountain guy, a sailboat guy and a healer guy.
In this episode, we discuss:
- How his guiding career has evolved over the years and how he wants to take people outside now with the intention to help heal
- The many moments and people in his life that steered him on the path
- Jon’s perspective on time spent “clean”
- How we think about success in recovery
- Full circle moments
- His experience at a treatment center
- The importance of noticing the small moments in your life
- Finding community in sobriety
- Clarity of mind
- His nonprofit organization, Dogsmile Adventures
Resources mentioned:
- Treatment Center: Denver Recovery Center
- Book: The Alchemist
Catch Up With Jon:
- Dogsmile Adventures:
WebsiteInstagram- Jon’s Instagram
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.
1 hr 2 min - How his guiding career has evolved over the years and how he wants to take people outside now with the intention to help heal
- Season Two Trailer
Season Two is almost here. But before we dive into what’s to come, I wanted to reflect on the last season.
In this trailer, we highlight the key themes that came out of Season One:
- No one’s sobriety or recovery or healing journey will be the same. And simultaneously, there is a connective tissue between all of them.
- Sobriety can mean different things for different people. There is no one correct definition of this stuff. Each person had to figure out what this meant for them.
- The outdoors are therapeutic but alone, they will not heal everything you’re wrestling with. That being said, they are incredibly important to our healing work.
- We, as the outdoor community and industry at large, need to do a better job of showing up for each other in this space. The more we stay silent and scared to bring up traditionally taboo tops, the more our community stays scared, sick and feeling alone.
- All human beings want is love, belonging and connection. Every story we heard, there was a point that the guest was telling us about how they didn’t feel like they belonged, or they didn’t get the love they deserved and needed when they were young, or they lacked connection with others.
We also dive into some audio responses that we received from our community around some key questions.
Finally, we talk briefly about what you can expect from this season.
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.
21 min - Mini-Episode: A Couples Experience
Being in a relationship is hard work, regardless of sobriety, addiction or recovery. So add in sobriety for one part, and non-sobriety for the other, and it can get a bit tricky. But lots of content out in the world makes it sound like it is truly the end of the world. It's a lot more nuanced than that!
Andrew (my partner) and I sit down on the mic to discuss:
- The circumstances in which we met
- The first few years of our relationship and how alcohol played a part
- How we both felt when I decided to stop
- What surprised us about the transition
- Our recommendations for other couples who may be going through a similar transition
We, in no way, have all the answers, but we thought this might give some ideas to some couples out there and may be helpful to share with some friends. Enjoy!
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.
35 min - Episode 10: Surrendering with Karla Amador
Karla Amador (She/hers/her) is the founder and CEO of the 52 Hike Challenge and Thrive Finance. She is a seeker, a digital nomad, natural spiritual teacher, yogi, intuitive, and much much more.
In this episode, we discuss:
- How the practice of taking care of herself is bringing her joy right now
- How she struggled with perfectionism and was hard on herself
- Her experience with rock bottom
- Why trusting our inner knowing is so incredibly hard and so incredibly important
- What co-dependency is and how it manifested for Karla
- Why, many times, co-dependents find and create relationships with addicts
- How she discusses codependency and emotional intelligence with her son
- How therapy can help us dig through family dynamics and come to a more loving and empathetic place
- How helpful EMDR therapy is to uncover and work through trauma
- The cycle of self-sabotage
- How she thinks about trauma
- Recovery options for co-dependency
- How hiking became a crucial part of Karla coming back to herself
- How the 52 Hike Challenge was born
- Letting go and finding self-love
Resources mentioned:
- Co-Dependents Anonymous
- 52 Hike Challenge
WebsiteInstagramCatch Up With Karla:
- Karla’s Instagram
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.
57 min - How the practice of taking care of herself is bringing her joy right now
- Episode 9: Pain Leads To Purpose With Matt Arends
Matt Arends (he/him) is based in Minnesota. He is an adventurer, environmentalist and thrill seeker. He also happens to have chronic pain and is the COO | CMO for The MindStrong Project.
In this episode, we discuss:
- How being on a college football team shaped Matt’s drinking but also his need for community
- How cyclical injuries affect your mental health
- The identity crisis that comes after an injury or the end of your specific sports career
- How alcohol is part of the equation in most outdoor sports
- How he found the outdoor community after college
- How one injury set him on the path of discovering and dealing with chronic pain
- His time at a whale shark tour company in Tanzania
- His experiences living with chronic pain
- The importance of sharing our pain and being vulnerable for not feeling alone and finding community
- How one friend starting a group chat can change everything
- What lights him up now (spoiler alert: plants!)
- His goal of helping to extend the local farming season in his hometown
Resources mentioned:
- Documentary: The Weight of Gold
- Backcountry Marketing podcast - episode with Becky Marcelliano
Where you can catch up with Matt:
- Instagram
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.
53 min - How being on a college football team shaped Matt’s drinking but also his need for community
- Episode 8: Hiking Your Feelings With Sydney Williams
Sydney Williams (she/her/hers) is an author, adventurer and the CEO and founder of Hiking My Feelings. From their website, Hiking My Feelings is ‘on a mission to improve community health by creating opportunities for people to experience the healing power of nature.’ She is a bundle of amazing energy. In fact, we had so much fun that I texted her and asked her to be friends afterwards. And now we are. Cool stuff.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Sydney’s skydiving career
- Being diagnosed with Diabetes and how this impacted her life
- Why she stopped drinking after her diagnosis and how it helped her find clarity in her own thoughts
- Why the Trans-Catalina Trail is magical
- What hiking means to Sydney
- How we cannot truly heal but simply stopping drinking, we need to do the internal work to heal ourselves
Resources mentioned:
- Books:
The Body Keeps the ScoreUntamedDodging Energy VampiresCatch up with Sydney:
- Instagram
- Hiking My Feelings Instagram
- Hiking My Feelings Website
- Take A Hike Diabetes Initiative
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like.
1 hr 17 min - Sydney’s skydiving career
- Episode 7: Through Darkness Comes Light with Jay Trebelhorn
In this episode, we discuss:
- Growing up in Minnesota and being introduced to the outdoors at a young age
- How Jay struggled with anxiety and feeling out of place from an early age
- How he’s harnessed his introversion as a superpower
- His work at the Phoenix (a sober active community non-profit)
- What active recovery means for him
- His experience with going to treatment centers
- What triggered his relapses and the rationalizations that often happen with relapses
- His experience with sober living houses
- The difference between sober living and halfway houses
- The cyclical nature of his particular journey
- What Suboxone and Methadone can do and how they’re used
- His brush with actual death
- Creating a life around the outdoors while going through addictive episodes
- Why finding his community of supportive outdoorsy people was a turning point
- His intentional reasoning for not having any social media accounts
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- The Phoenix
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like.
1 hr 7 min - Growing up in Minnesota and being introduced to the outdoors at a young age
- Episode 6: Alone In Wonderland with Christine Reed
Before we get into the episode, we wanted to update you all on our February community fundraiser for The Loveland Foundation. Our original goal was $750 as a community and we raised $1,350! We will be announcing the UST gear giveaway later this week on our Instagram. Stay tuned!
Trigger Warning: We discuss sexual assault and blacking out in this episode.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Why she’s called ‘Lady Unicorn’
- Her definition of sobriety and perspective on addiction versus abuse
- Moving around a lot as a kid and the effect is had
- How she came to be fiercely independent
- The experience of being bullied in high school and the impact that had on her life
- How her drinking escalated over a few years
- Coming to terms with her experiences with sexual assault and how that’s shown up in her life
- How drinking since she quit drinking at large is now triggering for her
- How she stumbled upon the Appalachian Trail through a blog and how she subsequently stepped on it not long after
- How her mom’s death pushed her to try to figure out a better way to live for herself
- Why she decided to write a book and what was the catalyst for the title and content
- Reconciling being alone and relationships with other people
Resources mentioned:
- Christine’s Book: Alone In Wonderland
Catch up with Christine:
- Christine's Instagram
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like.
1 hr 6 min - Episode 5: Being A Positive Example with John Holdmeier
Before we jump into the episode, in honor of Black History Month, we are announcing a fundraiser + gear giveaway to support The Loveland Foundation. From their website:
“The Loveland Foundation was established in 2018 by Rachel Cargle in response to her widely successful birthday wish fundraiser, Therapy for Black Women and Girls. Her enthusiastic social media community raised over $250,000, which made it possible for Black women and girls nationally to receive therapy support. Black women and girls deserve access to healing, and that healing will impact generations.The Loveland Foundation is the official continuation of this effort to bring opportunity and healing to communities of color, and especially to Black women and girls. Through fellowships, residency programs, listening tours, and more, ultimately we hope to contribute to both the empowerment and the liberation of the communities we serve.”During the month of February, we will be fundraising and trying to hit $1,000 worth of donations. When we hit $1,000, I will make my own donation of $250 on top of that. In order to donate, please Venmo me directly @Emilyholland14 (we are doing it this was so that we do not have to pay a fee to use a fundraising site, and ALL of the money can go directly to the Foundation). Any person who donates will be automatically entered to win FREE UST Gear! These winners will be announced on March 2nd.
Okay, now onto the show.
On this episode of the Nature Untold Podcast, we sit down with John Holdmeier. John is a Brand Manager for American Outdoor Brands Corporation in Columbia, Missouri. He is an outdoor enthusiast and incredible human, passionate about healing, and getting outside, preferably on a river, whenever he can.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The best way to support others around you may need it
- Showing the best example of a joyful, fulfilling life is the best way you can help others who aren’t ready to ask for help
- The fact that no one cares what you’re doing, in the BEST way possible
- The growing non-alcoholic movement and our mutual love for seltzers
- The logistics behind going to a treatment facility
- How hard it can be to ask for help
- John’s mental toolkit for remaining in recovery
- John’s perspective on the idea of ‘rock bottom’ and how it can be damaging for those who need help
- What water, specifically rushing water, means to John
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Podcasts:
On BeingTen Percent HappierCatch up with John:
- Instagram
Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like.
1 hr 5 min - The best way to support others around you may need it
About Nature Untold
From the publisher's feed
A podcast that explores the world of sobriety, addiction, recovery, and everything in between in the outdoor community and industry. Our goal is to normalize the discussion around these topics and offer nuanced stories that change perspectives. Started by Emily Holland, hosted by John Holdmeier.
Part of the Plug Tone Audio Collective.