Nature Untold

Nature Untold

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  • Episode 22: Eating Disorder Recovery - We Can All Do Better Together

    Trigger Warning: This is an episode about eating disorders, disordered eating and how they intersect with substance use disorders.

    This episode is based on wanting to explore the crossover and differences between the eating disorder community and the addiction, sobriety and recovery communities. In exploring this topic, I spoke to Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani, Jenna Celmer and Caroline Wickes.

    Resources for eating disorders:

    • The Gaudiani Clinic Website
    • The Gaudiani Clinic Instagram (has free resources and information)
    • Full Gaudiani Clinic Resources List
    • Catch up with Jenna Celmer:

      • Jenna’s Instagram
      • Catch up with Caroline Wickes:

        • Caroline’s Instagram
        • Article: Weighing In: Does Climbing Need an Eating-Disorder Intervention?
        • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

          45 min
        • Episode 20: Falling In Love With Yourself with Kali Platt

          Kali Platt (she/her) is an avid outdoors woman, cat mom, sober lady and works in PR at The North Face.

          In this episode, we discuss:

          • Living in an intentional way
          • How her definition of sobriety has changed over the years
          • How growing up on both the East and West Coasts impacted her relationship with alcohol
          • How she looks back at her younger self now
          • Her experience working in the restaurant industry and how it impacted her relationship to alcohol
          • Her internal clashing
          • How when she first got sober, she had no intent ion of sticking with it. It was through her partner’s journey that she realized she may need to stop
          • How sober meetings fully anchor her in support
          • Doing sobriety ‘right’ and how that thinking is problematic
          • How important sober friends are
          • Her move to Colorado and how it changed how she thought about alcohol
          • Her experience in working within the outdoor industry
          • Resources mentioned:

            • Book: We Are The Luckiest by Laura McKowen
            • Group: The Luckiest Club
            • Group: Alcoholics Anonymous
            • Gruvi Non-Alcoholic Pop-Up In Denver
            • Catch up with Kali:

              • Personal Instagram
              • Sober Instagram
              • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                1 hr 1 min
              • Episode 19: Taking Up Space with Laura Silverman

                Laura Silverman (she/her) is a booze free babe. She has created some of the most well known booze-free social media communities out there - Booze Free in DC and Zero Proof Nation. She’s a lover of karaoke, roller derby, nature and chocolate.

                In this episode, we discuss:

                • How she got into roller derby
                • Our love of the movie ‘Whip It’
                • How she got sober at a very young age and how that’s impacted her sobriety journey
                • Her relationship with recovery and how she prefers the word discovery for where she is now in her   life
                • How more recent diagnoses have helped her move forward with her mental health
                • How her sobriety has enabled her to be open and unashamed about who she really is
                • Realizing that we are worthy of so much
                • Importance of finding the right content and people for your recovery
                • Building a recovery menu
                • However you get to a substance-free lifestyle is great (!)
                • How the recovery space has changed during her sobriety
                • Her relationship with the outdoors
                • Resources:

                  • How to remove alcohol ads from your Instagram
                  • Movie: Whip It
                  • Podcast: Unruffled
                  • Recovery Groups:

                  • Tempest

                    Monument

                    SheRecovers
                  • Wellbeing Brewing
                  • Connect with Laura:

                    • Her Instagram
                    • Booze Free In DC Instagram
                    • Zero Proof Nation Instagram
                    • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                      58 min
                    • Episode 18: New Level of Confidence with Lindsey Graves

                      Lindsey Graves (she/her) is a yoga instructor, meditation guide and pediatric nurse. She loves hiking and being outside as much as possible. Lindsey has been free of alcohol for over 2.5 years.

                      In this episode, we discuss:

                      • Her experience being a travel nurse and what she’s learned about herself and her sobriety through this experience
                      • How she has adopted a new level of confidence in her sobriety
                      • How her sobriety and state of mind attract like-minded people who are focused on their health like she is
                      • Her love of hiking
                      • How alcohol can limit who you’re meant to be
                      • How her birthplace (New Orleans) and where she grew up (Houston) impacted her alcohol journey
                      • Her relationship with her parents and alcohol and how that still impacts her
                      • How her drinking escalated from that first sip
                      • How we can do better for our communities
                      • Ending generational trauma
                      • When she decided to listen to the small voice in her head
                      • How yoga came into her life
                      • Having compassion for ourselves
                      • What’s in her sobriety toolkit
                      • Resources mentioned:

                        • Books:

                        • Alcohol Lied to Me: The Intelligent Way to Escape Alcohol Addiction

                          Unfu*k Yourself: Get Out of Your Head and into Your Life

                          This Naked Mind

                          The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober: Discovering a happy, healthy, wealthy alcohol-free life

                          Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                          50 min
                        • Episode 17: Causing Less Harm with Benton Carroll

                          In this episode, we discuss:

                          • His goals from an early age - reducing the amount of harm he causes, and preparing for his own death
                          • Physical dependence on alcohol
                          • His experience with people telling him he needs to be less emotional, achieve more, etc.
                          • Coming to a place of feeling good enough without external validation
                          • How he learned to hide his mistakes instead of make mistakes
                          • The beginning of our numbing
                          • How isolation can sometimes be a self-preservation tactic
                          • Boundaries! My favorite topic!
                          • The reason he started to question his relationship with alcohol
                          • Psychedelic therapeutic modalities
                          • The importance of asking for help
                          • Letting go of the narratives we get when we’re kids
                          • Catch up with Benton:

                            • Instagram
                            • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                              58 min
                            • Episode 16: Sober Curiosity In The Mountains with Emerald LaFortune

                              Emerald LaFortune (she/her) is an outdoor writer, whitewater and flyfishing guide, as well as a community builder. She is based in rural Idaho.

                              In this episode, we discuss:

                              • What’s bringing her joy right now
                              • Why Idaho is such a special place
                              • The realities behind being a guide
                              • How if you can't or won’t name a problem, you will not be able to solve it
                              • How she came to the idea of sober curiosity in her life
                              • How much of drinking is just a way of trying to convey certain character traits
                              • How valuable the outdoors are in letting go of control
                              • Distinguishing between what positives have come from sobriety and what positive things have come from therapy, energy work and others
                              • How she moved through the fear of not being as ‘fun’ anymore
                              • The constant decision making that comes with social drinking
                              • Why it is important to let people surprise you
                              • Letting go of the reward mentality of alcohol
                              • How the social media society doesn’t allow for much fluidity of experience
                              • The importance of finding a community that you see yourself in
                              • The idea of no feeling being a good or bad thing
                              • What is in her toolkit in her sober curiosity
                              • Resources mentioned in this episode:

                                • Book: The Sober Lush
                                • Catch up with Emerald:

                                  • Instagram
                                  • Website
                                  • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                                    55 min
                                  • Episode 15: Adventure Recovery with Josh Flaherty

                                    Josh Flaherty (he/his) is a father of two boys, a person in long-term recovery, lover of the outdoors and Executive Director of Adventure Recovery. Oh, and has a perfect golden retriever pup.

                                    In this episode, we discuss:

                                    • How the outdoors were not only a foundational aspect of growing up for Josh, but a key part of his recovery journey 
                                    • His experience working in a completely different industry, the music and entertainment business
                                    • How he got into this industry in the first place
                                    • His transformation from focusing on the external, trying to impress others, to focusing on the internal and the intimate now
                                    • How things escalated to a level where a friend nudged him to get help
                                    • His long road of getting help, feeling pulled together, and going back to it
                                    • The feelings he was running away from
                                    • How sobriety is about being connected to the community around recovery
                                    • His first time becoming involved with Adventure Recovery
                                    • Some of the life changing experiences he’s been able to witness through his work with Adventure Recovery
                                    • His biggest takeaway from his recent Master’s program in Social Work
                                    • People who have helped us along the way, and how it isn’t necessary to have a degree to help someone who is struggling
                                    • The beginner’s mindset and why it is so crucial
                                    • Resources mentioned:

                                      • Adventure Recovery
                                      • Alcoholics Anonymous
                                      • Catch up with Josh:

                                        • Instagram
                                        • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                                          51 min
                                        • Episode 14: Grounding with Inaya Robinson

                                          Inaya Robinson (she/hers) has been sober for over 8 months now. She’s a young professional, newly-realized cat lover and nature enthusiast.

                                          In this episode, we discuss:

                                          • Inaya’s definition of sobriety and how she defines herself
                                          • Her experiences with depression
                                          • How she came to start drinking more (& how it made her feel)
                                          • The moments that led to her sobriety
                                          • What surprised her about her sobriety journey
                                          • What programs/platforms she used in the early days and what she uses now
                                          • Her relationship with spirituality
                                          • Her love of the outdoors and nature and how that has played a part in her healing
                                          • Keep up with Inaya:

                                            • Her Personal Instagram
                                            • Her Food Instagram
                                            • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                                              44 min
                                            • Episode 13: Coming Home with Sallie Hoefer
                                              Trigger warning: there are mentions of sexual assault and blacking out in this episode.

                                              Sallie Hoefer (she/her/hers) is a conservationist, avid mountain biker, skier and trail runner, dog mom, and sober lady. She is a beautiful soul, seeker, florist, and veracious reader.

                                              In this episode, we discuss:

                                              • Her unique definition of sobriety - anything that pulls her out of alignment with her truest integrity
                                              • Key areas that she still struggles with
                                              • Listening to her inner knowing
                                              • The confirmation bias that can sometimes keep us sick
                                              • All the concerns she had when she thought about getting sober
                                              • How getting sober helped her come home to herself
                                              • Her love for nature and outdoor sports
                                              • How alcohol consumption became either a punishment or a reward for exercise
                                              • When she got her dream job and drinking was part of every day in it
                                              • How Big Alcohol has become embedded in the outdoor space
                                              • Her ideas about how we can do better as a society around alcohol
                                              • Her sobriety toolkit now, almost 5 years in
                                              • How her relationship with mountain biking changed when she got sober
                                              • Resources mentioned in this episode:

                                                • Book: Untamed by Glennon Doyle
                                                • Book: How To Quit Like A Woman by Holly Whittaker
                                                • Organization: Tempest
                                                • Author: Meghan Watterson
                                                • Book: Know My Name by Chanel Miller
                                                • Other Resources From Sallie:

                                                • Podcasts:

                                                  Home

                                                  Back from Broken

                                                  This episode of Terrible Thanks for Asking

                                                  Real Talk Radio

                                                  Books:

                                                  Drink by Ann Dowsett Johnston

                                                  We Are The Luckiest by Laura McKowen

                                                  Sober Curious by Ruby Warrington

                                                  Where you can catch up with Sallie:

                                                  • Instagram
                                                  • Thank you, as always, for listening to this episode. Please free free to follow along on the show’s Instagram, our private Facebook group, or wherever you’d like. We also have a Patreon if you’re interested in supporting everything Nature Untold is cooking up.

                                                    58 min

                                                  About Nature Untold

                                                  From the publisher's feed

                                                  A podcast that explores the world of sobriety, addiction, recovery, and everything in between in the outdoor community and industry. Our goal is to normalize the discussion around these topics and offer nuanced stories that change perspectives. Started by Emily Holland, hosted by John Holdmeier.