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In this listener request episode, Heather is joined by Melissa MORGAN Humphreys (hump-freeeeeze) of the Just the Tip-sters Podcast. FINALLY!! We have been wanting to collaborate for about a year and a half? We will be discussing the murder OR death of Lana Clarkson. Some say murder, while others say death…because of the details and lack of evidence. This is a case that was presented to me back in Season 2 as a listener request and I asked Melissa if she would like to cover it with me. Which, I’m glad she did, because there were so many twists and turns…plus her connection to the case is super interesting!

In 2003, actress Lana Clarkson’s body was found in the foyer of record producer Phil Spector’s mansion…or as we like to call it; his Dracula castle. All the way up until about 15-20 minutes into recording, Heather was set on what she thought happened on that fateful morning. However, once she started discussing the case with Melissa…her entire viewpoint and opinion shifted!
Throughout this episode, We will also discuss our theories about what may have happened as well as Phil Spector’s professional impact on the music industry.

Guest: Melissa Morgan
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In episode 12 of Season 3; our season FINALE, we will discuss Sante Kimes. Sante Kimes is much easier to say than the mouthful of a name she was born with – Sandra Louise Singhrs. She was born on July 24, 1934 in Oklahoma City, OK. Sante was kind of a badass…but not in the good way; if there is a good way. She was motivated by money and would hurt whomever she had to in order to get what she wanted.
Sante was eventually convicted of two murders, robbery, forgery, violation of anti-slavery laws, and much more. Yes, I said violation of anti-slavery laws. So, what’s that mean exactly? We had the same question until Rachelle dug into her case a bit.
Sante had a way with men. A way to make them do as she said. This manipulation and perhaps fear that she put into others, is exactly how her son ended up helping her commit crimes…even murder. Yep, mommy and Clyde.

As promised: This is Ken Jr's article https://narratively.com/my-mother-taught-me-to-kill/#:~:text=Kenneth%20Kimes%20Jr.%20is%20currently,cautionary%20tale%20to%20help%20others.

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In this listener request episode, Heather is joined by Jon Towers of the Abracast Podcast. We will be discussing the Smiley Face Killers…or rather, the theory that they exist. This is a case that Jon presented to me back in Season 2 and he has some interesting insights and connections to different locations within the case(s).
In 2008, retired New York Police Department detective Kevin Gannon and his team of investigators went public with their theory and have attempted to prove the existence of the Smiley Face Killers. They believe the serial killer gang murders college-aged men and dumps their remains in nearby bodies of water, leaving behind sinister happy face graffiti at the death sites. So, we are going to discuss several of the deaths that have led police to believe in the existence of this sinister gang. We will also discuss our theories about what may have happened to the victims mentioned in this episode.
Additionally, we discuss our morbid curiosity with bones (human?)…found in one of our yards! We will be posting these photos on the website as well!
Guest: Jon Towers
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In episode 11 of Season 3, we will discuss Clementine Barnabet; or should we say, Clementine BarnaBRAT?! This is another older case…so the exact day that Clementine was born on, is unclear. However, we do know that she was born sometime in 1894. Clementine was a serial killer and a cult member…who established the “Church of Sacrifice” with her father. This doesn’t sound scary at all…we’d totally attend every Sunday…NOT!

Clementine confessed to 35 murders; 17 of which she committed by herself. That’s pretty messed up on its own. But, what if we told you that she was 15 years old when she started murdering people? Here’s the kicker; she didn’t murder one at a time – she always killed families – families whom she and her father deemed as sinners. This included young children too; as young as 11 months old.

This case is kind of like a roller coaster ride; so be sure to keep your hands and feet inside the car at all times. Once the ride is over; you’ll be shocked to see who folks believe Clementine turned out to be…


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In this listener request episode, we will be discussing a case that Ashley (from our previous bonus episode - The Serial Killer Cookbook: Interview with author Ashley Lecker) presented to me a few months back.  We will be talking about the Back 40 Murder of Margaret Anderson.  Which was a VERY VERY brutal crime.  This is your warning now…if you can’t stomach brutal details; maybe skip this episode. It actually made Heather a bit uneasy to discuss. But, if you’re a trooper and you want to listen to this episode, minus the awful details; then you can start skipping forward at 33 minutes and come back after 39 minutes and 15 seconds.

This is a case that resonated with Ashley as she lives in Green Bay, WI and has been in the area her entire life. Ashley even went to the location and grabbed photos of the scenes as they look today (you will be able to find them on the social media pages and the website).

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Shout out to our amazing friends for their voiceover help! Be sure to follow their podcasts too!
Sarah - Voices for Justice Podcast
Hunter - Murder and Such Podcast
Justin - Mysterious Circumstances Podcast

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GoodPods set up an awesome event and invited Josh Mankiewicz to discuss his new podcast “Motive for Murder”. There ended up being more hosts than time allotted; so, the hosts (Heather, included) were able to sit in and have a Meet & Greet via Zoom with Josh! This audio can be found on Patreon!
The actual discussion with Josh - where he talks about his podcast AND answers our questions - is what you're listening to right now! Enjoy!
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In episode 10 of Season 3, we will discuss Diane Odell. Born on 1953; who, is responsible for the death of four babies…her own babies. Her case is referred to as “The Babies in Boxes Murder Case”. From that tag alone; I’m sure you can determine where her babies were found. But, do you know how long they were there?
Diane ended up giving birth to a total of twelve babies…eight of which were given the chance to grow into functioning members of society. The four babies who weren’t so lucky were carried around in boxes from home to home and from state to state over the course of at least 10 years.
She would have kept this up had she not defaulted on her storage rent. The storage unit was sold off and the buyer found the babies in the boxes. But why these three babies? Why did three babies die and eight babies live? In this episode, you’ll find out what Diane told the courts about the demise of her children.
Diane was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison, in 2004.


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In episode 9 of Season 3, we will discuss Charlene Adelle Gallego. Born on October 10, 1956; who, with the direction and assistance of her husband, abducted, raped, and murdered at least 10 victims. Together, the duo was known as the “sex slave killers” or the “love slave killers”. According to Charlene, her husband experienced impotence and brought forth the idea that the two could lure young women and keep them captive as their sex slaves. Apparently, she didn’t know he planned to kill them as well.

But, that didn’t deter her from still helping him after the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth victims. She would lure the girls from busy malls, fairs, and even the side of the highway. Sometimes with the promise of marijuana. Once in the vehicle, her husband would force the victims in at gun point. Charlene would drive whilst her husband brutally raped the victims…sometimes for hours at a time. Once he was done with them; Charlene would pull into a deserted area off the roadway/in the woods. Her husband would exit the vehicle – with the victims – kill them, and then dump or bury their bodies in a shallow grave.

This is definitely something that one should see the death penalty for…or at the very least, spend the rest of their life in prison for; right? Not in this case. Charlene is out of prison and walking among us…


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Join Heather for an exclusive discussion with host @JoshMankiewicz about podcast Motive for Murder with Goodpods - the new podcast social network. Search for Motive for Murder and submit your questions on the discussions tab before noon PDT June 10.

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