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In episode 8 of Season 3, we will discuss Dorothea Puente…meanie grannie. Born in Redlands, California in 1929; Dorothea’s childhood was way less then ideal. By the time she was 9 years old; both her mother and her father had passed away (father from tuberculosis and mother from cancer). But that wasn’t the sad part. Her mother and father were super abusive to her. Dorothea’s formative years were scathed by abuse and torture. At some point during her adolescence, she even stayed in an orphanage for a while; where she was sexually abused.

By the time Dorothea was 16, she was grown…and married her first husband. Over the next several years; she became pregnant three times. She gave one child to relatives, another – she put up for adoption, and the third was a miscarriage. By 1948; her husband had left her.

Shortly thereafter, Dorothea faces her first bout of criminal trouble. She was caught and sentenced to 1 year for forging checks but was paroled after just 6 months. Dorothea then became pregnant AGAIN, by someone whom she barely even knew; and gave her daughter up for adoption, AGAIN! 1952 rolls around and she marries someone whom she stays with for 14 tumultuous years.

After this is when shit gets real. Dorothea was driven for money…and did what she had to in order to get that bread. This includes old men, a boarding house, and government checks…

After at least 9, but possibly 15 victims – Dorothea died in a California prison on March 27, 2011.


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Heather is joined by Brian Olson from the Rabbit Hole Wanderer Podcast for this listener request episode. We discuss the case of Chris Benoit and the documentary surrounding his life and death as well as the murders of his wife and son.

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In episode 7 of Season 3, we will discuss Tillie Klimek. She was a Polish-American serial killer operating in the Ukrainian village of Chicago; better known as Chicago’s Little Poland Neighborhood. Tillie was born in 1876 and died of a heart attack sitting in prison on November 20, 1936. She had at least 5 victims…possibly more. She would poison them with arsenic found in a product called “Rough on Rats”.

Most serial killers operate solo; yes? Not Tillie. She was someone who seemed to really think she was above all. She was eventually referred to as “The High Priestess of the Bluebeard Clique” in the Little Poland neighborhood by the media. There were several other wives arrested for suspicion of murder of their husbands too. However, they were eventually released.

One thing that makes this story even more odd; is the fact that she claimed to have precognitive dreams about her victim’s deaths. These dreams would tell her when they were going to die…


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In episode 6 of Season 3, we will discuss Blanche Taylor Moore. She is an American murderer and suspected serial killer. Blanche was born in 1933 and is currently sitting on death row, awaiting execution in a North Carolina prison. She was convicted of the 1986 arsenic poisoning of her boyfriend, BUT she is suspected of also killing her mother-in-law and her first husband, as well as the attempted murder of her second husband in 1989. As with many convicted murderers & serial killers; Blanche had a very rough upbringing. Her father was an abusive alcoholic who would pimp her out to pay his gambling debts. When she was old enough to start her own relationships/get married, she found men with the same qualities as her father. Another thing that we often see with serial killers.

Throughout the proceedings, Blanche was adamant about not killing anyone & never using arsenic poison…even though there were 53 witnesses stating otherwise. She was convicted on November 14, 1990…the jury recommended the death penalty just three days later. Then on January 18, 1991; the judge agreed with the jury’s recommendation and sentenced Blanche Taylor Moore to die by lethal injection. It has been 29 years and Blanche has avoided death…still sitting in the North Carolina Correctional Institution for Women.


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In episode 5 of Season 3, we will discuss Lizzie Halliday - an Irish-American serial killer. She was born in Ireland in 1859 but moved to the United States when she was still a young child. She married her first husband in 1879 and then sent her young son to an institution after her husband died. She moved on rather quickly though…running through and tossing out husbands as if they were expired produce. In the mid-1880’s, after her attempt to kill another husband went awry, she fled to Vermont and married someone new. However, that only lasted a couple of weeks before she fled again. In the late 1880’s, she ended up in Philadelphia, where she committed arson and fraud…landing her in the Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia for 2 years. Upon her release, she immediately married again…but this will be the last time. She murdered her friend, her friend’s daughter, her stepson, her husband, and a peddler. These murders landed her in jail AND with a sentence of death. This would have made her the first woman in history, executed by the electric chair – BUT things change. She ended up serving her time in a mental institution with a life sentence as she was declared criminally insane. Lizzie committed one final murder before her death in 1918…and it was quite disturbing…


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In episode 4 of Season 3, we will discuss Judy Buenoano - an American serial killer. She had a very terrible upbringing...BUT as we've stated plenty of times in the past, that doesn't give you the right to kill people. She apparently didn't get the memo on this though, because Judy was executed in 1971 for the murder of her son, one of her husbands, and attempted murder of another one of her husbands. For these crimes, she received a 12-year-sentence for the attempted murder of one husband, a life sentence for her son's death, and a death sentence for another husband. On top of these CONFIRMED cases, there were several others who mysteriously became ill and died while under her care/married to her. She ALSO faced several charges of insurance fraud and suspected on several counts of arson (for insurance purposes). What we've learned with this case is to NOT take out life insurance on yourself. Oh! And...change your name every time you kill someone...

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In episode 3 of Season 3, we will discuss one of the most sensationalized criminal events in Canadian history. Evelyn Dick (aka The Torso Killer) was a stunningly beautiful woman who basically grew up in a society where her looks would get her whatever she wanted. Even in the end, there was something about her that kept her from really serving time for her crimes. At the age of 24/25, she murdered and mutilated her husband...leaving only his torso on "The Mountain" (at Niagara Falls). What investigators discovered in her home though; was just as disturbing. She ended up not serving time for her estranged husband's death AND only 11 years for manslaughter of her second victim. So, who was the second victim? And what happened to her once she was paroled? IF alive today, she is 99 years old.

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How about a dessert episode (aka a BONUS)? Heather had the absolute pleasure and opportunity to interview one of the coolest and most interesting people she’s ever met! Ashley Lecker is the author of a new book called “The Serial Killer Cookbook”. This book is super fun as Ashley takes you on a trip through history by providing synopses of killers who were on death row. She re-creates their last meals in a fun and easy way…even Heather can make these dishes! This is perfect for the true crime enthusiast! Grab some friends, chat about killers, and cook their last meals! That’s a Friday night that I could get into!

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This is the second episode of SEASON 3 - where we'll be discussing FEMALE KILLERS! Waneta Ethel Hoyt was an American serial killer who was convicted of killing ALL 5 of her biological children. Her children kept dying from what doctors suspected to be SIDS. However, in 1985, there was a prosecutor who was working on a murder case and was advised by a forensic pathologist that there may in fact be a serial killer in his area. The forensic pathologist suspected this AFTER reading a report on SIDS and the Hoyt family (although their names were redacted). The prosecutor became the District Attorney in 1992 and tracked down the Hoyt's even without their names being disclosed in the report. This DA was the reason that Waneta was caught. In 1995, she was sentenced to 75 years in prison...15 years per child. However, she didn't end up serving her full sentence...but why?

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This is the first episode of SEASON 3 - where we'll be discussing FEMALE KILLERS! Genene Anne Jones is an American serial killer who is currently serving her prison sentence in Texas. In 1985, she was sentenced to 99 years in prison for killing a 15-month-old baby girl with Succinylcholine and an additional 60 years (to be served concurrently) for almost killing a 4-week-old with an overdose of Heparin. As of 2020, there have been developments in this case.

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Thank you @mackorslash from the @hackorslash podcast for this suggestion!