In this episode, Allie Marie Smith interviews Nicole Zasowski a licensed marriage and family therapist, about the coexistence of joy and pain in life. They discuss Nicole's personal journey through loss and the importance of embracing both emotions. The conversation delves into the neuroscience behind joy and pain, practical ways to practice Thanksgiving, and the significance of agency in personal transformation. Nicole also shares insights from her new Bible study, 'Daring Joy,' which explores the power of celebration amidst life's challenges. Topics discussed:   Nicole's Personal Journey with Joy and Suffering   The Neuroscience of Joy and Pain   Practicing Thanksgiving in Daily Life   Understanding Emotional Pain   The Power of Agency in Transformation   Daring Joy: A New Bible Study   <a href="https://wonderfullymade.org/">Visit our website.</a>   Get Allie’s book “<a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Social-Media-Reset-Journey-Reconnect/dp/B0DJY7V6Q3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1AO23WPJZ1IJ2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BQ0kGSg7cpPp7LnAtxackvWVgzz1tRaxyB_FqyW5v5LB1W7Wjf4VH7xkoa4Wfqs3PYibV99l8O63x-G01x_qbai4bC9DcVLdQ9S2uJUulAib2gvadH8NC6D1xnW0Ph9V2lWPpWQgyXlIC_BHsrV7TBG8n5e9mMTSrrNZzr5FDgiRLYuAivKMuKPK-v7eqGzKz0jXNVSSKm_ZNJuhgy-Q3AcFSKZ1hoA5F6Zqx7rW74c.5ycmambnkOtXo95yQ_uNEAFD9zJ1TpsImvZuiD5eUW8&dib_tag=se&keywords=social+media+reset&qid=1736975197&sprefix=social+media+reset%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1">Social Media Reset</a>” <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Wonderfully-Made-Discover-Identity-Created/dp/0802424368/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2VGYYN2TF0VQ1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RscMx36rRIY6n50HrqMDGUlI-uJJ5Ezasie5-dtCfJXERw9diRfngI710XDN9HwIv1-Zh9GxSeYL3h9Ho3XNg4BajaL1RgGv-vNMMNvH4lY6YL77DM5OO5UcmeZaQfTA4m6VSrGR9QKpYokxAFeTVRyr7HONrELzDgnNa4K5HO3LHZ9SWj7cfp66lvnW--8Ly4sy8ipe_f4_qRxQuOR_GVEAanyl-p_XP9PnK2MM2aY.l34RR-XBtxPph3DXuv20DNjJrfvMw9WXh-MOmX19Qwg&dib_tag=se&keywords=allie+marie+smith&qid=1716493078&sprefix=allie+marie+smit%2Caps%2C199&sr=8-1"> Get Allie’s book “Wonderfully Made</a>”   <a href= "https://wonderfullymade.org/love-her-a-latte/">Join our Love Her A’Latte</a> campaign — make our podcast possible.   <a href="https://wonderfullymade.org/2025/03/10/navigating-the-coexistence-of-joy-and-pain-with-nicole-zasowski/">Get the show notes</a>

In this episode, Allie Marie Smith interviews Nicole Zasowski a licensed marriage and family therapist, about the coexistence of joy and pain in life. They discuss Nicole's personal journey through loss and the importance of embracing both emotions. The conversation delves into the neuroscience behind joy and pain, practical ways to practice Thanksgiving, and the significance of agency in personal transformation. Nicole also shares insights from her new Bible study, 'Daring Joy,' which explores the power of celebration amidst life's challenges. Topics discussed: Nicole's Personal Journey with Joy and Suffering The Neuroscience of Joy and Pain Practicing Thanksgiving in Daily Life Understanding Emotional Pain The Power of Agency in Transformation Daring Joy: A New Bible Study Visit our website. Get Allie’s book “Social Media Reset” Get Allie’s book “Wonderfully Made” Join our Love Her A’Latte campaign — make our podcast possible. Get the show notes

In this episode, Allie Marie Smith interviews Nicole Zasowski a licensed marriage and family therapist, about the coexistence of joy and pain in life. They discuss Nicole's personal journey through loss and the importance of embracing both emotions. The conversation delves into the neuroscience behind joy and pain, practical ways to practice Thanksgiving, and the significance of agency in personal transformation. Nicole also shares insights from her new Bible study, 'Daring Joy,' which explores the power of celebration amidst life's challenges. Topics discussed: &nbsp; Nicole's Personal Journey with Joy and Suffering &nbsp; The Neuroscience of Joy and Pain &nbsp; Practicing Thanksgiving in Daily Life &nbsp; Understanding Emotional Pain &nbsp; The Power of Agency in Transformation &nbsp; Daring Joy: A New Bible Study &nbsp; <a href="https://wonderfullymade.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Visit our website.</a> &nbsp; Get Allie’s book “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Social-Media-Reset-Journey-Reconnect/dp/B0DJY7V6Q3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1AO23WPJZ1IJ2&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BQ0kGSg7cpPp7LnAtxackvWVgzz1tRaxyB_FqyW5v5LB1W7Wjf4VH7xkoa4Wfqs3PYibV99l8O63x-G01x_qbai4bC9DcVLdQ9S2uJUulAib2gvadH8NC6D1xnW0Ph9V2lWPpWQgyXlIC_BHsrV7TBG8n5e9mMTSrrNZzr5FDgiRLYuAivKMuKPK-v7eqGzKz0jXNVSSKm_ZNJuhgy-Q3AcFSKZ1hoA5F6Zqx7rW74c.5ycmambnkOtXo95yQ_uNEAFD9zJ1TpsImvZuiD5eUW8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=social+media+reset&amp;qid=1736975197&amp;sprefix=social+media+reset%2Caps%2C191&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Social Media Reset</a>” <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wonderfully-Made-Discover-Identity-Created/dp/0802424368/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2VGYYN2TF0VQ1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RscMx36rRIY6n50HrqMDGUlI-uJJ5Ezasie5-dtCfJXERw9diRfngI710XDN9HwIv1-Zh9GxSeYL3h9Ho3XNg4BajaL1RgGv-vNMMNvH4lY6YL77DM5OO5UcmeZaQfTA4m6VSrGR9QKpYokxAFeTVRyr7HONrELzDgnNa4K5HO3LHZ9SWj7cfp66lvnW--8Ly4sy8ipe_f4_qRxQuOR_GVEAanyl-p_XP9PnK2MM2aY.l34RR-XBtxPph3DXuv20DNjJrfvMw9WXh-MOmX19Qwg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=allie+marie+smith&amp;qid=1716493078&amp;sprefix=allie+marie+smit%2Caps%2C199&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Get Allie’s book “Wonderfully Made</a>” &nbsp; <a href="https://wonderfullymade.org/love-her-a-latte/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Join our Love Her A’Latte</a> campaign — make our podcast possible.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://wonderfullymade.org/2025/03/10/navigating-the-coexistence-of-joy-and-pain-with-nicole-zasowski/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Get the show notes</a>

Navigating the Coexistence of Joy and Pain — with Nicole Zasowski and Allie Marie Smith

Step into your God-given identity, know your value and live the life you were made for. 

Join author, speaker, and life coach Allie Marie Smith for inspiring conversations with women of faith about mental health, body image, wellness, relationships, intentional living, and so much more. Receive practical wisdom and encouragement to help you thrive and live a wholehearted life of freedom and purpose.

Our culture constantly bombards us with lies and pressure to be more, do more, and hustle for our worth. We are here to be that voice of truth that comes alongside you on your journey, reminding you that you are not alone. You are loved just as you are. The world needs you as God made you to be, not as what our culture tells you to be, in order for you to be worthy.

If you want to grow spiritually and flourish in your life, this is the podcast for you! Whatever your beliefs or questions about God —you are welcome here. 

Through our inspiring conversations, you will be empowered to have agency over your life and seek God as you pursue spiritual, mental, and physical wellness. We have seen that self-esteem often falls short on its own. However, believing you are loved and enough in Christ has the power to set you free.

Consider us, your friends, here to remind you of your God-given worth and that no matter what you are going through, Jesus is with you and loves you more than you can imagine. 

No matter what your story or current struggles are, healing and transformation are possible for you.

Step confidently in the direction of wholeness, healing, and love as you quiet the voices of the world and tune it to the wisdom of the God who knows you intimately and loves you perfectly.
God made you intentionally for a unique purpose, and His eternal plan for you is better than you could ever hope. 

We believe when a girl or a woman knows God and knows her value, it changes everything. 

We are here to empower you to become the woman God created you to be.  The conversations we share will give you hope that you can overcome challenges, whether it be an eating disorder, depression, or anxiety, and make peace with your body, create fulfilling relationships, and live a passionate life of purpose and significance. 

We want to help you create a life with God you can’t wait to wake up to each morning. You are a woman of influence with the ability to make a lasting impact on the lives of the people God has placed around you. You have been lovingly and wonderfully made for this time and place in history. 

Hear from women like Sadie Robertson Huff, Bethany Hamilton, Morgan Harper Nichols, Ellie Holcomb, Jamie Grace, Sheila Walsh, Joni Eareckson Tada, and so many more as they inspire you to live with confidence, faith and courage. 

This podcast is for teen girls and women of all ages and is produced by Wonderfully Made®, a 501(c)3 non-profit Christ-centered organization dedicated to helping teen girls, and women know their value and live spiritually mentally, and emotionally healthy lives. 

Our theme verse is from Psalm 139:14: “I praise you because you are fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.”

To be fearfully and wonderfully made means that you have immense worth and dignity because God created you. You have been made with love and wonder, and God is worthy of your praise.

Connect with us at wonderfullymade.org. We’d love to hear from you! 

Please subscribe and leave a positive rating and review if this podcast encourages you. 

Each guest’s views are her own and are not always reflective of our organization.

Religion & Spirituality

Step into your God-given identity, know your value and live the life you were made for. Join author, speaker, and life coach Allie Marie Smith for inspiring conversations with women of faith about mental health, body image, wellness, relationships, intentional living, and so much more. Receive practical wisdom and encouragement to help you thrive and live a wholehearted life of freedom and purpose. Our culture constantly bombards us with lies and pressure to be more, do more, and hustle for our worth. We are here to be that voice of truth that comes alongside you on your journey, reminding you that you are not alone. You are loved just as you are. The world needs you as God made you to be, not as what our culture tells you to be, in order for you to be worthy. If you want to grow spiritually and flourish in your life, this is the podcast for you! Whatever your beliefs or questions about God —you are welcome here. Through our inspiring conversations, you will be empowered to have agency over your life and seek God as you pursue spiritual, mental, and physical wellness. We have seen that self-esteem often falls short on its own. However, believing you are loved and enough in Christ has the power to set you free. Consider us, your friends, here to remind you of your God-given worth and that no matter what you are going through, Jesus is with you and loves you more than you can imagine. No matter what your story or current struggles are, healing and transformation are possible for you. Step confidently in the direction of wholeness, healing, and love as you quiet the voices of the world and tune it to the wisdom of the God who knows you intimately and loves you perfectly. God made you intentionally for a unique purpose, and His eternal plan for you is better than you could ever hope. We believe when a girl or a woman knows God and knows her value, it changes everything. We are here to empower you to become the woman God created you to be. The conversations we share will give you hope that you can overcome challenges, whether it be an eating disorder, depression, or anxiety, and make peace with your body, create fulfilling relationships, and live a passionate life of purpose and significance. We want to help you create a life with God you can’t wait to wake up to each morning. You are a woman of influence with the ability to make a lasting impact on the lives of the people God has placed around you. You have been lovingly and wonderfully made for this time and place in history. Hear from women like Sadie Robertson Huff, Bethany Hamilton, Morgan Harper Nichols, Ellie Holcomb, Jamie Grace, Sheila Walsh, Joni Eareckson Tada, and so many more as they inspire you to live with confidence, faith and courage. This podcast is for teen girls and women of all ages and is produced by Wonderfully Made®, a 501(c)3 non-profit Christ-centered organization dedicated to helping teen girls, and women know their value and live spiritually mentally, and emotionally healthy lives. Our theme verse is from Psalm 139:14: “I praise you because you are fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.” To be fearfully and wonderfully made means that you have immense worth and dignity because God created you. You have been made with love and wonder, and God is worthy of your praise. Connect with us at wonderfullymade.org. We’d love to hear from you! Please subscribe and leave a positive rating and review if this podcast encourages you. Each guest’s views are her own and are not always reflective of our organization.

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