In part 2 of our chat with Gabby Lord and Maggie Tang, we get inspired by Gabby's tweets (@gabbylord_ if you're not following already). From the unachievable expectations of job ads, to the cost of award entries and what it's like to stick your neck out and hope you don't get shot down.

This is the first in a 3 part series of a conversation I had with Gabby Lord and Maggie Tang. Both are Aussie creatives in Berlin with significant opinions on the industry and ideas for solutions. In this first part we discuss what it's like to be a woman in the industry, whether disparity in pay still exists (it does!) and why.

In the second half of our chat with Kitiya Palaskas, things get very real and very personal. Kit has started an initiative called the Real Talk Project (realtalkproject.net). It's a project to encourage openness and honesty and to help reduce the stigma around admitting if and when you're doing it tough.

In this episode, we chat with Melbourne creative Kitiya Palaskas about burnout, accountability and how to deal with social media. Check out more about Kit at http://www.kitiyapalaskas.com/

Adam Thorn is a journalist for Australia's media, marketing and creative industry news site, Mumbrella. For the last few months he's been investigating unpaid internships in the media industry. He shares his findings, the stories he uncovered and the potential solutions for making starting a career, much more accessible.

In this episode we interview Charl Laubscher, the founder of Love + Money. Charl has had a fascinating journey through creative agencies and used that experience to start up his own. Love + Money have recently moved to a shortened work day, quality of work and productivity is up, and people have more time in their personal life!

A first "mini" episode recorded while walking to and from the Mumbrella Health Marketing Summit to launch our research study, Mentally Healthy 2018. Let us know if these mini episodes are a good idea. And if you're happy with speed over quality. Airpods and iPhone for this one.

In the last part of our discussion with Josie and Tina we tackle some personal experiences around some of the mental and emotional struggles of being a creative. Don’t forget to share and subscribe for more!

In part 2 of our chat with Josie and Tina we discuss are we giving people entering the creative industry the best possible start? Should interns be paid? If not, what does that mean for others who can’t afford to work for free?

We chat with Josie Young (Christopher Doyle & Co.) and Tina Victoria Afshar (Common State) about being a woman in the industry and what we can do to find better balance and inclusion. Big thanks to Josie and Tina who gave up their Saturday afternoons to record this.