This episode Andy and Sarah discuss a recent Never Not Creative event –  The Future Of Internships. Should they or shouldn't they be paid? How do we make sure that internships aren't just accessible to those who can afford them? What stories exist around unpaid internships? What's the law? Why is our industry breaking it? What's the role of education in improving this situation?

Included on the panel at the event were: Beau Penton, host of The Design Kids, Sydney Bianca Jarvis, Graphic Designer Rhiannon Tuntevski, Industry Partnerships at UTS Lara Blumber, Career Coach at General Assembly.

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We catch up with Katy Cowan, the founder of Creative Boom. The online magazine for the creative industry that supports and provides resources for anyone working (or thinking of) in the creative industry. Katy shares stories of freedom, growing a side project, and finding the balance of doing what you love AND helping others. Is growing business the goal, or should we focus on growing ourselves and managing our mental health? Oh, and is a mid-life crisis actually a thing? Check out Creative Boom and creativeboom.com.

In this episode we get frank about the experiences of women in the creative industry. Mirella Marie is the founder of Womentor. An international mentor network for female graphic designers. Mirella talks to us about the inspiration for Womentor and how it has evolved into a global program. We also find the link between design and crime as Mirella shares her passion for criminology and the part she plays in the RMIT innocence project.

If you're interested in applying for Womentor, head to womentor.com.au (no matter where you are in the world).

Thanks to Mirella and thanks to co-host Sarah Nguyen!

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It's the second half of our review show. Sarah and Andy discuss internships with the highlights from our chats with Adam Thorn (journalist at Mumbrella) and Dean Jacobson (a creative from Melbourne). We get into parental leave, re-capping on our chat with Kate Pollard (Co-founder, Circle In) and finish off by re-opening the discussions with AGDA from the end of the year.

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We'll be back again in 2 weeks.

To kick off season 2, we review the best of season 1. Andy and co-host Sarah, go back to the start to discuss vulnerability and struggle with some of the highlights from Andy's chat with Josie Young and Tina Victoria Afshar. We also talk egos and feelings with Kit Palaskas and re-cap on the magical 5hr working day with Charl Laubscher from Love and Money. 

Part 2 is up next week. If you'd like to share, this is a great one for intro-ing friends and colleagues to Never Not Creative. 

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