Jodie and Celia finally do their holiday rundown, Jodie is a senior citizen and Celia is the Jewish Marie Kondo, the kids continue to deny both of them personal space (in the case of Lulu, to the absolute extreme), and other chaotic dispatches from parenting during a pandemic.

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TW: This episode contains discussion about suicide. This week Jodie and Celia are joined by the first mom in the UFC, Cat Zingano! Cat talks about her incredible journey as a professional fighter and as a mom – single motherhood, a debilitating injury, the suicide of her husband, dealing with depression – and how her son is what got her through it. Cat also shares how much her service dog has helped her cope and live a better life, and she’s partnered up with a company called Shelter to Soldier that pairs rescue dogs with veterans. And somehow, Little Murray comes up in the midst of it all.

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Jodie and Celia welcome pediatrician and father Dr. Joel Warsh to the podcast this week! Dr. Warsh integrates both eastern and western medicine at his Los Angeles practice, and lately he feels like a therapist because he is primarily dealing with people’s Covid-19 anxieties. He stresses the importance of maintaining healthy habits during, tells Jodie and Celia which vitamin supplements are helpful, and reassures us all that even making small changes can help us get through this pandemic. 

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In this episode, Celia shares a tough “never thought I’d” of her own: that she was an abused child. Celia talks about the long journey to accept that she was abused and not blame herself, and how her experience has changed the way she parents. Jodie and Celia talk about how sharing your pain can help other people reconcile their own. Also – Oprah’s soul smells like sugar cookies.

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Jodie and Celia are joined by Frank Meeink, a former white supremacist skinhead who is now a civil rights activist. Frank tells his story, giving insight into how an abused, neglected kid will look for acceptance anywhere – even within a hate group. And then, through becoming close with a Jewish man who was kind to him, he began to let go of his misguided beliefs. Jodie, Celia, and Frank discuss the importance of sobriety, self-confidence, and being of service.

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Jodie and Celia are joined by Christy Carlson Romano this week! And what a week it is – Christy has two young kids, just moved states, is sober, and is really feeling the stress of parenthood. They discuss the strange feeling of loving your kids more than anything but also acknowledging that parenting can really suck. And they dig into the hard stuff – what they wish was different, the impossible mom guilt, and lack of sex drive post-kids. Moral of the story? Talk about everything!

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This week, Jodie and Celia talk to divorce attorney Aaron Abramowitz! Both having gone through divorce themselves, the ladies have a very frank conversation with Aaron about the realities of going through one of the hardest things a person can go through (especially when there are kids involved). Aaron answers questions from listeners, and Jodie and Celia give advice based on their own experiences.

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Jodie and Celia talk about how Halloween brought up a sticky parenting moment this year: how to let teenage girls express body confidence while also drawing a line on clothing that is too revealing for their age. They discuss sexual stigmas, double standards, and sex positivity – and how to talk about those things with their daughters. Jodie shares a parenting fail that she was feeling particularly guilty about…until Celia shares a story that makes Jodie feel MUCH better.

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Welcome to another week of NTIST! Jodie and Celia discuss effectively canceling Thanksgiving this year (and being OK with it) and what Thanksgiving was like for them growing up (Celia has some stories). Plus, a stalker-y voicemail from Celia’s mom and unsolicited cameos from both the ladies’ animals.

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Jodie and Celia discuss how having a sarcastic, jokey relationship with their kids can lead to nobody knowing where the line is (and disapproving looks from strangers at the store). They weigh the positives and negatives of that type of relationship, and Celia shares how it has been taken too far recently by her oldest daughter. Plus, the customary talk about butts, Jodie mishearing Celia to inappropriate results, and a few updates about Celia’s totally normal, not crazy at all mother.

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