In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Between Us Moms, Katie Krause Mork and Hallie Stevens Drake welcome Nicole Phelps—mom of four boys, former Miss California USA, mental health advocate, and wife to the most decorated Olympian of all time, Michael Phelps.

In a rare and refreshingly candid conversation, Nicole opens up like never before about the beautiful chaos of raising four boys, the core values she and Michael are instilling in their kids, and how they navigate the unique pressures of growing up with such a high-profile last name.

Nicole also shares intimate insights into her four postpartum journeys and her bouts with PPD, the beautiful and evolving dynamic of her marriage, the impact of social media on parenting, and why mental health has become such a deeply personal mission for her. She even answers the question we’re all wondering: Would the Phelps family ever do a reality show?

From funny to emotional to incredibly inspiring—this is a raw, real and exclusive, must-listen episode for every mom (and dad!).

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