Sal sits down with Nils, founder and CEO of Auki Labs, to explore the future of spatial intelligence, machine perception, and augmented reality. Nils shares how his journey began with a vision for AR overlays in tabletop games like Warhammer, ultimately leading to breakthroughs in spatial computing. They discuss the potential of DePIN to make AI more accessible, drawing parallels between AR's evolution and human language. Nils addresses the limitations of current AR tech, such as battery life and processing power, and proposes new types of wearable devices as a solution. The conversation also delves into Auki's token system, which incentivizes contributions to a decentralized machine perception network. This episode offers a compelling look at the future of AR, robotics, and human-machine interaction.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction

00:37 - Sponsor Message: Polygon

01:00 - Introduction to Nils and Auki Labs

02:02 - Inspiration Behind Auki and Spatial Computing

05:36 - DePIN: AI and Its Resources

06:52 - Terence McKenna and the Evolution of Language

09:58 - Augmented Reality as Humanity's Oldest Project

10:50 - The Future of Robotics and Human Language

14:32 - Decentralized Mapping and Positioning

15:57 - The Inevitable Global Movement of DePIN

16:27 - Memetic Engineering: A Career Overview

20:27 - The Concept of Memes and Their Impact

25:41 - Auki's Business Model and Go-to-Market Strategy

27:30 - AR Notes and Communication in Retail

30:53 - AI's Role in Retail Efficiency

33:44 - Form Factors for Spatial Computing

40:03 - Decentralized Collaborative Spatial Computing

41:51 - Auki's Token and Crypto Strategy

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