The words “icon” and “legend” are thrown around a lot these days, but Norma Kamali has truly had a fabulous career. Her use of unusual materials like sweatpant fabric, stretchy cotton Lycra, and even sleeping bags revolutionized womenswear. And that’s just the beginning.

On this week’s episode of The Run-Through, Kamali shares her wide-ranging thoughts on everything from the stylishness of the ’70s, the flattening effect of social media on personal expression and creativity, why she wants her staff to use AI at work, and the reason she opted not to celebrate her 80th birthday.

The Run-Through with Vogue is your go-to podcast where fashion meets culture. Hosted by Chloe Malle, Head of Editorial Content, Vogue U.S.; Chioma Nnadi, Head of British Vogue; and Nicole Phelps, Director of Vogue Runway, each episode features the latest fashion news and exclusive designer and celebrity interviews.