We’re going to be back with new episodes of When Science Finds a Way in the not too distant future so stay subscribed so you’re the first to hear them. In the meantime, we've got another show to fill your time with.

Outrage and Optimism is a climate podcast for anyone who is not ready to give up on creating a better world. They speak to the crucial decision makers at the intersection of climate science, policy and business to make sense of the latest headlines in one of the most urgent stories of our times.

We recommend you check out their episode on the urgent connection between climate and health, in conversation with Julia Gillard, former Australian Prime Minister and Chair of Wellcome.

Follow the podcast on wherever you get your podcasts and learn more about it at: Climate Change Podcast | Outrage + Optimism