EEI 2025 featured a strong lineup of keynote speakers. In this episode, we share the full keynote conversation between Safra Catz—Oracle’s CEO at the time of recording and now executive vice chair of the board—and outgoing EEI Chair Maria Pope, president and CEO of Portland General Electric. Their discussion explores how electric companies and hyperscalers are navigating the era of rising energy demand. Visit the Electric Perspectives website for more coverage of this year's thought leadership forum.