Not all readers are leaders, but all leaders are readers.

And thanks to tech today, you can also listen to a book if you’re not a visual learner, including the 10 very favourite (so far) books we have loved and learned from over the years. Some books are oldies, others are very recent!

To find out what titles we recommend (we brought different recommendations) and why, listen in. And here’s where Jac & Ral align and here’s where they are different in their favourite choices:

Common Ground

1. Big-Picture Thinkers – We are both drawn to books about vision, purpose, and legacy.
2. Passion for Leadership & Performance – We both admire leadership principles that build long-lasting impact.
3. Creativity & Innovation – We both value creativity, but we approach it in different ways.

Key Differences

• Ral is more emotionally intuitive & bold → She loves books that challenge conventional wisdom, celebrate creativity and emphasise human connection.

• Jac is more analytical & strategic → She loves books that explore cognitive biases, motivation, and long-term leadership.

• Ral is about storytelling & experience → Her books focus on sticky ideas, culture, and moments that matter.

• Jac is about psychology & purpose → Her books explorehow people think, what drives them, and how to lead for the long haul.




Our Recommendations

- Made to Stick

https://www.amazon.com.au/Made-Stick-ideas-others-unstuck/dp/009950569X




- Big Magic

https://www.amazon.com.au/Big-Magic-Creative-Living-Beyond/dp/1408866757




- Legacy

https://www.amazon.com.au/Legacy-James-Kerr/dp/147210353X




- The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

https://www.amazon.com.au/Subtle-Art-Not-Giving-Counterintuitive/dp/1925483592




- Unreasonable Hospitality

https://www.amazon.com.au/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/1529146828




- The Infinite Game

https://www.amazon.com.au/Infinite-Game-Simon-Sinek/dp/0241385636




- Thinking Fast and Slow

https://www.amazon.com.au/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0141033576




- Shoe Dog

https://www.amazon.com.au/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-NIKE/dp/1471146723




- Drive

https://www.amazon.com.au/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1786891700




- The Creative Act

https://www.amazon.com.au/Creative-ACT-Way-Being/dp/0593652886




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