She invented the portfolio career before we knew it was a thing…  In this episode Jac and Ral pay tribute to the legendary Dolly Parton and break down her timeless business and leadership lessons. 

From her masterclass in self-reinvention (more than a few times over!) to owning her IP, Dolly proved she was far more than just a talented singer, she was a visionary business mastermind who expanded her brand from country and pop music to Broadway, acting, theme parks (Dollywood), and global philanthropy, all while remaining radically true to herself.

Ral shares a story very few know about and together they discuss their favourite Dolly quotes (and songs!). In a world full of same same, we should all strive to be more like Dolly.

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Are you running on empty, struggling to switch off, or finding it harder to bring your best self to work?

In this episode, Jac and Ral are joined by Alessandra Edwards, author of The DNA of Performance and expert advisor on the biology of high performance.

They explore the critical distinction between your capability (what you know) and your capacity (what you can physically access each day). Plus, Alessandra breaks down why middle-age fatigue might be depletion rather than aging, how your genetic energy blueprint influences stress, and why 84% of leaders aren't taking proper breaks during the workday.

If you want to learn how to build sustainable biological capacity to avoid burnout in leadership and personal life – this is the episode for you!

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Ever caught yourself saying, "I'm just bad at tech," "I'm terrible at public speaking," or "I'm too old for this shit"? 

Be careful... your brain is listening, and it’s gullible as hell.

In this episode Jac and Ral discuss neuroplasticity - the science of how your brain constantly rewires itself based on what you feed it. 

Learn why your internal narrative is either building neural highways or sending you down a downward spiral. And find out why it's never too late to rewire!

Jac & Ral share more about system 1 vs system 2 thinking, the power of manifestation and visualisation, and why flipping the script is the best hack going.

Stop letting your self-limiting beliefs run the show. Tune in, rewire your brain, and find out just how much you’ve actually got left in the tank.

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In this episode Jac & Ral take a fresh batch of listener questions from our global community and answer them.

They cover dealing with WFH slackers, false accusations at work, where the Keeping it Real podcast ideas come from, why nobody reads the meeting pre-reading you send out and more great questions from our curious global community of Keepers.

Maybe you too have a colleague who seems to spend all day on their phone… Or you’re dealing with a boss who doesn't believe you… We dive into workplace dynamics, leadership presence, handling awkward conversations, and how to make sure your hard work actually gets noticed.

Listen in, better still, send us your burning question for a future episode. Agony Aunts we aint, but we love dishing out REAL advice.

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Get ready to see how many of these you're doing without even realising...  

In this episode Jac and Ral talk through the habits quietly wrecking your reputation, from over-relying on AI to over-promising things you never actually deliver, to gossiping your way into "everyone secretly doesn't trust me” and trying too hard. And there’s a couple of surprise killers of credibility you might be shocked by!

Funny, uncomfortable, and very relevant. Rate yourself and see how many you're guilty of, Keepers.

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This one’s all about career reinvention and designing your next chapter. And why the word and associated feeling behind "retirement" needs a serious rebrand, because the idea of doing nothing for 20 years is nobody's dream.

Jac and Ral unpack the real reasons people stay stuck - money fears, the terrifying question of "who'd actually pay me for this," and the myth that “certainty’ exists anywhere.

Jac shares how she planned her own exit and why a bit of desperation is your new best friend. Together they also get into the rise of portfolio careers and fractional executive work, the data behind why more people are building multiple income streams, because it turns out the best boss you'll ever have is staring back at you in the mirror!

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Gen X is 1 in 5 Australians and roughly a third of the workforce, and they're leaving. Not always retiring either. Stepping down, going portfolio, consulting, or just saying "I'm done."

Jac and Ral are Gen X and together they unpack why Gen X is leaving en masse… Is it  the manager? Is it missing purpose? Is it the micromanagement? And for those who don’t leave (but wish they could) what are the convenient stories they’re telling themselves about why they can't move, for example "it's too late," "I can't afford to" blah blah blah.

If you're 46 to 61, or you lead people who are, this one's for you.

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Should you take the big promotion? 

Walk away from a bad leader? 

Move overseas? 

Facing tough career decisions can feel overwhelming. In this episode, Jac and Ral tackle a question from a Keeper - How do you navigate high-stakes career decisions?

From turning down top-tier roles due to leadership clashes to balancing major international promotions with family life, Jac and Ral break down a practical, step-by-step framework to help you list, prioritise, and reframe your choices. Tune in for candid stories, coaching tools, and the mindset shift you need to make confident career moves.

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Inspired by the Keepers who attend our immersions along with a few Jac is currently coaching, we share stories about women stepping beyond their comfort zone to seek out their number (salary) they want, achieve the promotion they deserve and take on new reimagined career opportunities in a changing workforce.

The thing that stops people in their careers, especially women, isn’t their capability, potential or their experience… it’s simply a lack of self-belief. Everybody is born with huge potential but most of us don’t have huge self belief.

Learn how to change this. Jac & Ral share a critical tip…the first thing you need to do to grow your confidence. Will you do it?

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*Warning*

This could be a confronting episode! Jac & Ral discuss the tragedy of the traditional retirement model…. If you die with money in the bank, you’ve essentially wasted life energy it took to earn that money. A theory also shared by Bill Perkins who wrote the book Die With Zero.

Ral convinces Jac (and herself recently when booking expensive accommodation!) when you spend money on an experience early in life, you don’t just enjoy it in the moment. You get to reap the rewards of those memories for the rest of your life.

Jac is sold! She says your wealth should actually peak before you retire, usually between ages 45 and 60 depending on your health and goals. After that peak, you should actively start spending down your wealth to fund those experiences while you still have the health and vitality to enjoy them.

Agree or disagree? Either way it’s about balancing health, time and wealth and that’s keeping it real 😊

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