Packy McCormick joined Deana and Natasha to talk about what a not-sketchy and compliance-first future for CeFi could look like. They talked around the relationship between yield and risk, and how much money banks are taking home (wow, a lot). Then, Natasha and Deana discussed a recent transparency hangover, and the responsibility of DAO governance. As ever, they unpacked some insecurities in the feelings check-in, and logged some hours at the emotional labor office.

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