In this episode of Overwatch Maseh Zarif sits down with ISW's Research Director, Jennifer Cafarella, to discuss her report ISIS's Second Comeback: Assessing the Next Insurgency. Jennifer discusses her insights into what the group did in Iraq and Syria to survive the U.S.-led campaign and what it is preparing to do in the future. She also describes the current U.S. role on the ground and potential scenarios in the months ahead, and provides her view of how the effort to combat ISIS fits into the U.S. National Defense Strategy framework.

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