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Before we get into it, a genuine thank you to everyone who listens, supports the show, and keeps this community alive. You know who you are. We do this because we love it, and you make it worth doing. Now let's get into it.

Detroit IMSA: BOP'd Into Irrelevance

The Porsche GT3R at Detroit was so heavily Balance of Performance'd that it was barely a factor, and the prototype entries qualified so far back in such a short enduro format that catching up was a near-impossible ask before the green flag even dropped. But let's be honest with ourselves here: IMSA was on GM's side from the jump. The race is in Detroit, GM's backyard, and anyone paying attention could feel the gravitational pull toward keeping the home team looking good. This isn't new. The frustration with series organizers placating to manufacturers based on geography or politics is real, and it's a recurring stain on what should be a pure competition. When the racing result feels predetermined by the city it's held in, that's a problem worth calling out.

The 911 Market Is Not Coming Back Down

We touched the surface of this last episode when we talked about Mezger-engine GT3s drying up and the 993 price surge, but it's time to go deeper because the numbers are getting genuinely hard to rationalize. 997 Carrera S's: a green manual with 35k miles is asking $108k. Midnight blue, 55k miles, manual, asking $90k. For a Carrera S. Let that sit. 996 Turbos, which we've covered before, are now seeing 95k-mile manual cars asking $90k. The market logic here is that against the backdrop of new Porsche prices, these feel like deals to people entering the hobby. And look, we get it, but that doesn't make the numbers any less wild.

The broader picture is this: if you are chasing a manual 911 of any generation, any configuration, the era of stumbling into a good deal is over. Base 991.1s with 50 to 80k miles are moving at $65k to $80k. Base Carrera, not an S, not a GTS. And before anyone says you can still find a reasonable 996 base 911 for $35k to $40k with 90k miles -- we'd push back hard on that. That is not a bargain. That is a lot of money for a car that will demand attention and investment. The "affordable 911" narrative needs to be retired.

Here's the thing we want to be transparent about: there is zero financial incentive for us to tell you to go buy a car. We don't get a cut. But if you want a manual 911 and you're sitting on the fence, today is genuinely the better bet than tomorrow, because every data point we're seeing says the floor keeps rising regardless of generation. This is not a bubble in the traditional sense. These are driver's cars with a finite supply of desirable manual configurations in a world that stopped producing them. Why do you think this keeps going up? We'd love to hear from the community on that.

What makes this genuinely upsetting, not just analytically frustrating, is that the price appreciation is pricing out exactly the people who should be owning these cars. The passionate ones. The ones who would drive them, maintain them right, and actually care. Instead they end up with people for whom it's a flex or a garage sculpture. That's a gut punch for anyone who's been in this community long enough to remember when that wasn't the case.

JC9 Carrera GT: A Solution Looking for a Problem

The JC9 is essentially a reimagined Carrera GT body with visual cues borrowed from the 917. On paper that sounds compelling, but sitting with it longer brings up some real questions. The Carrera GT doesn't need to be fixed. It is one of the most celebrated analog driver's cars ever made. Slapping a new body on the concept and marketing it to ultra-wealthy buyers who want something exclusive feels like the automotive equivalent of a solution looking for a problem. KISS. Keep it simple. The military drilled that into some of us for good reason, and it applies here. The original formula was right. The more the car world chases bespoke reinventions of icons for nine-figure clientele, the further it drifts from what made those icons matter in the first place. Thoughts on this one? We have mixed feelings and we're not hiding it.

Indecent 911 Hatchback Wagon: Cool Idea or Vaporware?

The renders coming out of Indecent for a custom 911 hatchback/wagon are genuinely striking. They look cool. Full stop. But the question that always follows something like this is whether this is another "put your money where your mouth is" moment, where the concept gets traction on the internet and then quietly disappears when build deposits don't materialize. The 911 community has seen this cycle before. People love the idea of something unconventional until they have to actually commit to it. Is there a real market for a coachbuilt 911 wagon? Maybe. Is the execution going to live up to renders that were made to generate buzz? That's always the harder question. What do you think -- cool and you'd want one, or a stunt?

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Ruckus Debrief

Ruckus is in the rearview and the roads delivered. Cold weather, beautiful scenery, and rock chips that serve as a reminder you actually drove the thing. This is what it's for. No complaints from anyone in the crew — the kind of event you start planning to return to before you've even unpacked.

The Headlines: Porsche Jobs, Nurburgring, and Luft Atlanta

Porsche is cutting 500 jobs tied to ongoing revenue pressure and nobody here is happy about it. We never like to see people lose their jobs — full stop. On the racing side, the 24 Hours of the Nurburgring is right around the corner, which means a lot of sleepless nights ahead for the right reasons. And for the enthusiast crowd, Luft is headed to Atlanta this October. Last year it was North Carolina, so the southeast is getting some real love on the calendar right now.

Vanthoor to McLaren — And What Porsche Isn't Saying

Laurens Vanthoor is joining McLaren's hypercar program on loan from Porsche for 2027. No official announcement about what this means for Porsche's factory team presence, but the crew has seen this movie before. When Porsche starts farming out factory drivers and running every livery they can on the factory car, it's usually a preview of an exit — the same pattern played out before they stepped back from the RSR program. Nothing confirmed, but the read here is that Porsche is pulling back from that factory hypercar effort whether they've said so or not.

997 GT3s Are Gone — And the Price Is Whatever the Seller Wants

The 997 GT3 market has reached a point that only a handful of models ever hit: the cars aren't listed because the owners aren't selling. When they do transact, it's a phone call, not a listing. Word of mouth, private deals, specialty dealers with one car every few months. A 997.1 GT3 with a minor Carfax note and 60,000 miles is moving at $175,000, and the crew doesn't think that's anywhere near the ceiling. The reason this happens isn't complicated — as more people enter the Porsche world and chase a real driving experience, demand for the cars that actually deliver it concentrates. Supply doesn't move. Price does. The only honest answer a seller can give a buyer right now is: find me another one.

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The GT3 S/C

Hot off the press, literally revealed yesterday, Porsche unveiled the 911 GT3 S/C, and we had a lot to say. Let's start with what it actually is, because the name does some heavy lifting. S/C stands for Sport Cabriolet, though Porsche being Porsche, they let you sit with that for a second before confirming it. The badge itself is a callback to the 911 SC from the late 1970s, where SC meant Super Carrera, a car that basically defined what the usable everyday 911 looked like before the GT program existed. Using it here is either a brilliant wink at the obsessives in the room or the kind of marketing move that makes you think someone in Zuffenhausen has been deep on Rennlist. Either way, it works.

So what did they actually build? Porsche took the lightweight bones of the 911 S/T and dropped in the naturally aspirated 4.0 liter flat six from the GT3. 510 horsepower, 9,000 rpm. And the result is the first ever open top GT3 in production history. Not a limited run. Not 1,948 units. You can actually order one, which is either the most exciting or most controversial sentence in this episode depending on who you ask.

The Weight Question

This is where the internet was ready to roast Porsche, and they came prepared. The GT3 S/C weighs 1,497 kilograms. That is just 18 kilos more than the standard GT3 coupe and about 30 kilos more than the 991 generation Speedster. For a convertible that number is almost offensive in how good it is. Carbon fiber on the hood, fenders, doors, and rear anti roll bar. Magnesium wheels standard. Carbon ceramics. They even swapped the battery to a lithium ion unit to kill another four kilos. At some point it stops being engineering and starts being a personality disorder, but we respect it.

The Roof

Here is the thing that split the room a little. This is the first GT3 with a fully automated power top. Twelve seconds. Electric. Works at up to 37 miles per hour. The purists who are already composing their forum posts about how the Speedster had a manual tonneau cover and that was the whole point, we hear you. But if you have ever been caught in a South Florida rain shower at a Cars and Coffee in your suede seat 911, you understand why this exists. Porsche also threw in a heated rigid glass rear window and an integrated electric wind deflector. This is not a race car you bought to trailer. It is a road car they actually want you to live with.

Manual Only. No Debate.

No PDK option. Not available. The GT3 S/C comes exclusively with the short ratio six speed manual and that is the entire spec sheet on transmission. At $273,000, Porsche is making a pretty clear statement about who this car is for. The chassis is tuned closer to the GT3 Touring than the full winged GT3, which makes sense because you are not taking this to a track day, you are on a mountain road with the roof down and the flat six screaming toward nine thousand rpm with nothing between you and that sound. That is the pitch. That is the whole pitch, and it is a genuinely good one.

What It Actually Means

The S/C picks up the spiritual thread the Speedster left, but Porsche is clear it is not a direct successor. The Speedster was a numbered tribute. This is a catalog car, which is either democratizing access to the GT3 experience or softening what made the Speedster special. We landed somewhere in the middle on that one. What is not debatable is that the cylinder heads are revised from the previous generation GT3 and the camshafts are the sharper units from the GT3 RS, so the engine is genuinely better. You get more top end character. You get it with the sky above you. At this price, with this spec, Porsche is not asking you to compromise. They are asking you to decide what kind of driver you are.

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The Dakar Gets an Upgrade — And Maybe a Second Chance

The next-generation Porsche Dakar is coming, and this time it's arriving with the full 992.2 treatment plus hybrid technology baked in. Expected ordering windows open late this year with a starting price somewhere around $250k before you even look at the options list. The big question the guys tackle here isn't whether the new Dakar is desirable — it obviously is — it's whether Porsche finally lets people actually buy one. The first-gen Dakar's limited production run was classic Porsche scarcity playbook, and it worked, but it also meant a lot of genuine enthusiasts who wanted one to drive got shut out. No "limited" label has surfaced yet for this new version, and the guys are cautiously optimistic that if you want one, you might actually be able to order one. That's how it should be.

Transmission by Wire: The Future of the Manual or the End of It?

Porsche is reportedly developing a transmission-by-wire system, and the concept is worth unpacking. Picture a traditional H-pattern shifter with the weight and feel of a real mechanical gearbox — but underneath, it's all sensors and software. Shift when you want to, feel like you're rowing gears, and when you don't want to deal with it, let the computer take over. The guys dig into whether this is genuinely cool engineering or just another layer of abstraction between the driver and the car. There's a real argument that this keeps the manual alive in an era where packaging and electrification are slowly killing it — but there's also the uncomfortable truth that a simulated shift feel is still simulated. Is this the future of the enthusiast car, or just a very expensive compromise?

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A shop burned down. There's beef inside Porsche's factory team. And a transporter got arrested for joyriding someone's brand new 911.

This week on P-car Talk, Mike and Aaron open with some real news from the South Florida car community — Arnage Motorsports, owned by their close friends Cory and George, lost their entire shop in a fire. GoFundMe link is in the description. These are good people and the community needs to show up for them.

Then they break down Porsche's Sebring sweep — first, second in GTP, Manthey wins its class. Great weekend on paper. But there's post-race drama between the number 6 and number 7 cars that makes the press conference worth watching. Team orders, a lead change that wasn't authorized, and two teammates who are very publicly not on the same page.

And then the one you'll be talking about: a Florida transporter decided a new customer's 911 was his personal weekend car. He got caught. He got arrested. But it opens up the entire conversation about how broken the car shipping industry really is — and whether driving the car home yourself is always the right call.

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Which Porsche Do You Actually Buy? — Part Two

Right where we left off. You've got the spec sheet in front of you, the price ranges are real, and the question the crew has been circling the whole episode finally lands on the table: if you had to write the check today — daily driver, PDK only, traffic more often than mountain roads — which one do you actually buy?

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Before we get into it, a quick thank you to everyone who's been riding with us. The messages, the DMs, the comments — you guys keep this thing going and we genuinely appreciate it. This community is something else, and we don't take that for granted. Now. Back to the cars.

So What Would You Actually Daily?

The ground rules are simple: PDK only, because this thing is going to sit in traffic far more often than it sees a sweeper at elevation. Fun matters, mountain roads matter, but they're the exception. The question is what works best when the exception isn't happening. The crew goes around the table — 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 at 394 horsepower and 309 torque, ranging $75k to $90k. 718 Cayman GTS 4.0, same numbers, slightly more money at $80k to $95k. The turbocharged 718 variants — S at 350 horsepower and 309 torque, GTS at 365 and 317 — with Boxster money starting in the $40k range and Cayman topping out around $75k. Then the 991 world: the 991.1 Carrera with the 3.4L naturally aspirated flat six, 350 horsepower, 287 torque, $50k to $70k. The 991.1 Carrera S stepping up to the 3.8L, 400 horsepower, 325 torque, $60k to $85k. And then the 991.2 — 3.0L twin-turbo making 370 in the base and 420 in the S, with pricing from $75k all the way to $110k depending on how deep you want to go.

Which One Wins and Why

The goal isn't a one-day car. It's a ten-year car — longer if possible. Daily, fun, occasionally on a real road, and something you don't want to get rid of. That framing changes the calculus immediately. This isn't poverty spec shopping, but it also isn't money-is-no-object territory. You want to save where saving makes sense without ending up in the wrong car. For the crew, the 991.1 Carrera S keeps rising to the top. The 3.8L naturally aspirated flat six is the engine you'll still be talking about in year eight. Four hundred horsepower, 325 torque, the sound is unreplicated, and the maintenance story on a well-sourced example is manageable in a way the 991.2's turbo system eventually isn't. The 718 GTS 4.0 is an emotional argument that holds up — but it's a smaller, louder, lower car that earns its keep on roads, not commutes. The 991 wraps the same soul in something you can actually live in. And the 991.2, for all its numbers, takes you out of naturally aspirated territory in a way that matters over ten years of ownership.

Get on the Road — Fahren 2026

If all this has you thinking about what it actually feels like to drive one of these cars on a real road with real corners, Fahren 2026 is the answer. October 13 through 16, Georgia, Tennessee, and North Carolina — 27 spots, and the kind of driving you'll be talking about for years. Head to pcartalk.com for details and get your name in before it fills up.

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Which Porsche Do You Actually Buy? — Part One

The question sounds simple until you actually start answering it: if you're shopping PDK because this car is going to sit in traffic more days than it sees a mountain road, which Porsche makes the most sense? The lineup starts with the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 and Cayman GTS 4.0 — both making 394 horsepower and 309 torque, with the Boxster ranging $75k to $90k and the Cayman $80k to $95k. Step down to the turbocharged variants and you're at 350 horsepower in the S and 365 in the GTS, torque actually matching the 4.0 at 309 and 317 respectively, with Boxster money starting in the $40k range and Cayman topping out around $75k.

The 4.0 is the easy emotional answer. The turbo variants are the practical one. The hosts work through both.

The 991 Enters the Conversation

Just as the 718 debate starts to settle, the 991 world opens up and complicates everything. The 991.1 Carrera with the 3.4L naturally aspirated flat six makes 350 horsepower and 287 torque and can be found in the $50k to $70k range — the 991.1 Carrera S bumps that to 400 horsepower with a 3.8L and asks $60k to $85k. Then the 991.2 comes in with the 3.0L twin-turbo making 370 horsepower in the base car and 420 in the S, and suddenly you're looking at a very different ownership proposition from a very different price bracket.

We're just getting into it — Part Two picks up right here.

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EV Cayman and Boxster Project on the Chopping Block Big news out of Stuttgart: Porsche has pulled the EV Cayman and Boxster from their configurator, and reports are surfacing that Porsche leadership held internal meetings to kill the project entirely. So is this a win or a loss?

Our take: probably more win than loss. This was shaping up to be a failure to launch. The enthusiasm for an electric mid-engine Porsche was never really there from the core enthusiast base, and the market has been sending clear signals. Sometimes the best move is knowing when to walk away before you're too far in. The money lost hurts, but a forced launch that lands flat would've hurt the brand more.

Magnus Walker Collection Heading to RM Sotheby's — No Reserve Magnus Walker is sending a significant portion of his collection to auction at RM Sotheby's, and the cars are listed with price estimates and—here's the key detail—no reserve. If you've spent any time in the auction world, you know how rare and how meaningful that is. It signals real commitment to sell.

The cars we're watching most closely: the Minerva Blue 930 estimated at $175-200k, and the 996 GT2 at $125-150k—nearly 100k miles on it, but it's a GT2, and those don't come around often. Honorable mention to the 996 GT3 at $100-125k. Estimates feel fair across the board, but no reserve means the floor is the floor and the ceiling is whatever the room decides. Expect most of these to go higher, not lower.

Fahren — Last Call, Spots Nearly Gone This is your final warning. Fahren spots are almost gone. If you're even remotely considering it, stop thinking and put your deposit in now to lock your spot. You can figure out the rest later. Don't be the person who waited too long and missed it. Head to pcartalk.com.

Singer Drops a Wide Body Convertible Singer has built a wide body convertible, and this is a bigger deal than people may realize. Factory wide body drop tops were made in period—just not many of them. Singer's version brings all their engineering refinement along for the ride, including a 4.0L naturally aspirated motor making 420 horsepower. For the person who wanted a wide body convertible and has the means to make it happen, Singer just gave them the answer. The heritage is real, and the execution is Singer. Hard to argue with that.

MotorTrend's Top 5 911s One Journalist Has Ever Driven MotorTrend published a list of the top 5 911s one of their journalists has ever driven: the first-gen 930 3.0 pre-intercooler Turbo, the 993, a 996 generation car, the 991.2, and the 992 GT3 RS. Opinion-based, sure, but it's a great conversation starter. The 930 pre-intercooler making the list says a lot—there's something about that raw, unfiltered experience that sticks with people. What do you think of this grouping? Is there a generation missing that deserves a spot? Let us know.

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Magnus Walker Selling Off Cars, Art & Memorabilia

Big news out of the collector world: Magnus Walker is consigning a significant portion of his collection to RM Sotheby's for a March 2026 auction. We're talking 160 items total—cars, art, memorabilia. No official word yet on which cars are going, but given the timing, this is likely tied to the Amelia auction.

The question is: why? Is Magnus losing interest? Chasing something new? Just cashing in while values are high? We've seen this pattern before—Vinny recently sold his GT3 RS. So what's going on?

Our take: we don't think the sky is falling. Prices on collectible Porsches are strong right now, and smart owners are capitalizing. We're not seeing any signals that demand is softening—if anything, more people are moving money into special cars. The hobby is growing, not shrinking. These guys aren't getting out because they know something we don't. They're getting out because the market is paying.

Fahren 2025: October 13–16 at Tapoco Lodge

Let's talk Fahren. October 13th through the 16th at Tapoco Lodge in the Smoky Mountains. If you haven't been, this is the one. The roads, the people, the format—it's everything we love about driving Porsches without any of the nonsense.

Who goes? Enthusiasts who actually drive their cars. People who care more about the road than the parking lot. The kind of folks who become friends, not just acquaintances.

Who should go? If you've been on the fence, this is your sign. If you want a premium driving experience with a tight-knit group, no egos, and some of the best roads in the country, Fahren is it.

Why should you go? Because you'll leave with stories, not just photos. Head to pcartalk.com and get on the waiting list for 2026 if this year is full.

Porsche Closing 30% of Dealer Network in China

Porsche is set to close roughly 30% of its dealer network in China. Not shocking given the revenue losses they've reported quarter after quarter in that market. The EV competition there is fierce, consumer preferences are shifting, and Porsche's positioning hasn't translated the same way it does in the West.

Markets change. Porsche is adapting. This isn't a sign of weakness globally—it's a smart move to stop the bleeding in a region where the math isn't working. We'll see how this plays out, but expect more consolidation before things stabilize.

Modern Classics Selling Big at Barrett-Jackson and Mecum

Something interesting is happening at the mainstream auctions. Cars like Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradales and Porsche 993 Turbo S models—cars that historically would sit with reserves not met at Barrett-Jackson or Mecum—are now selling. And selling strong.

What's changed? A few theories:

Are buyers shifting? Are fewer Boomers showing up and more Gen X and Millennials stepping in with different tastes? These younger buyers grew up with these cars as posters on their walls, not as "used sports cars."

Or have the Boomers themselves shifted what they're chasing? Maybe they've already bought the '60s muscle and the air-cooled 911s and now they're looking at the cars they drove in their 40s and 50s.

Either way, the platforms are adapting. Barrett-Jackson and Mecum are no longer just about Corvettes and Camaros. The definition of "collectible" is expanding, and the auction houses are following the money.

What do you think? Are we seeing a generational handoff in the hobby, or just an expansion of what collectors care about? Let us know.

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Rolex 24 Victory Lap The Porsche Penske #7 car takes the Rolex 24 for the third consecutive year—a feat only a handful of teams have ever accomplished. The guys break down their favorite moments from the weekend, which drew the largest crowd in event history. Can they make it four in a row?

Fahren 2025 Announced Mark your calendars: Fahren returns October 13–16 at Tapoco. The event is back to two days of driving, bringing together old friends and new for what's become a cornerstone of the Porsche enthusiast community.

Is the GT3 RS Going Turbo? Rumors are swirling that the .2 GT3 RS could ditch naturally aspirated power for turbos. The hosts dig into what this means for the future of the GT3 lineup—could this be the beginning of the end for NA Porsches in the GT family? And if the RS goes forced induction, how does that impact values on existing NA GT3s and RS models? A deep dive into the speculation and what it could mean for collectors.

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