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Dai and Ruth return for a tough podcast to record after 4 disappointing results in 10 days. The women had two frustrating draws with Ukraine although they are on track for a seeded place in the playoffs as they strive for Euro 2025. Elsewhere Rob Page's men drew against Gibraltar and got roundly beaten by Slovakia.

The main chatter though having looked at the games is where next for the manager, the crowd reaction to him, what are the alternatives and what do we think (and want!) to happen. It's a longer one to cover, and thank you for all your questions. We covered as many as possible.