Jeff Ritzmann interviews his old research partner, whom we have heard so much about, Lee Townsend. This is an absolutely fascinating conversation and confirmation of some of the shared experiences Jeff has talked about involving Lee. More than that, it's a conversation about Whitley Strieber's proposition that alien abduction phenomena might be what the face of evolution looks like to us. Lee is that rare breed of person who gets it. Not only that, he articulates the depth of Mystery so well that this is another cannot-miss episode!