Josh, known as ''jayr'' on the message board, joins us to discuss a post he made about last week's ''Echoes In A Yawning Chasm'' episode that gave Jer some new insights into his nothingness/everythingness identity experience. This is another mind-bending conversation that will have you thinking in perhaps completely new ways.

But first, Lee Townsend joins Jeff & Jer to investigate famed channeled entities ''Ramtha'' and ''Seth'' and talk about what makes these entity claims different from Shroud Man and even Jer's unconscious movements, which could easily be mistaken for channeling. (originally aired: 12.01.2011)