This is a crossover special between The Black Fridays podcast and Paratopia hosted by Jeremy Vaeni, Wes Owsley, and Stacy Lowery. Together, they interview NARCAP's Ted Roe and Dr. Richard Haines who were saying "UAP" long before it was cool. This is a discussion about their Project Sphere report on spherical UAP. But first, The Jer has a little something to say on The Trickster. (originally aired in 2010. Maybe have been a subscriber special.)

You can still read the report here: https://www.narcap.org/project-sphere