Patricia Allan was born in 1938 and so we get to learn from her life on this episode - she got her doctorate when she was close to 80 years old! We also hear about her memories of the end of World War 2, how she travelled to Europe back when you did that by boat, moving to work in Pakistan, deciding to get married within a week, raising 4 children, spirituality and finding meaning, serving in the Church as an Anglican priest, and writing her PHD on 'The Once and Future Cathedral' ... and falling in love and geting married a second time.

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More on her life: https://anglicanwomen.nz/patricia-allan-pathways-to-a-ph-d/