In this episode of NucleCast, Adam engages with Paul Amato, a seasoned expert in nuclear deterrence policy. They discuss the evolving landscape of nuclear strategy, the importance of education and leadership in nuclear discussions, and the challenges faced in communicating the significance of nuclear deterrence. Amato emphasizes the need for modernization of nuclear forces and the necessity of understanding the risks associated with nuclear escalation. The conversation also touches on the differences in nuclear strategy between Europe and the Pacific, and the importance of providing flexible options for national leadership in the face of nuclear threats.

Mr. Amato served as Director for Nuclear Deterrence Policy in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (2015–March 2025), leading a team responsible for U.S. nuclear strategy, force posture, modernization, arms control, and allied engagement. He was the principal author of the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review and led development of classified guidance for the President and Secretary of Defense. Earlier, he focused on NATO nuclear policy and extended deterrence with South Korea, and represented OSD in arms control talks with Russia and China. He previously served as Pakistan Country Director, deploying to Afghanistan and the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad. A retired Marine Corps Colonel with 28 years of service and three combat tours, Mr. Amato also practiced law for 12 years. He holds a BA from Franklin & Marshall and a JD from the University of Pittsburgh.

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