How does God communicate Himself? How could he make himself known? What did it mean for God's Spirit to come upon a group of men and women in Jerusalem sending them out into the world?

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Sally Jo shares her story.

NotesRanchers, Western south dakotaRural schools, mom taught schoolFather had little jobs, including preachingJoined the army, discovered she was a nerdAttempted to go to art school, but not enough money to go to Cambridge2nd tour in the army, national guardMade it to art schoolCame up across the political correctness stuffSteven CrowderThen Jordan Peterson C-16Favorite JBP was a little nervousRural lifeWhen he started talking about post-modernism everything got better. It wasn’t the people it was post-modernism. Leads to there is no objective beauty, you get forced to prove it, to make ugly artIF it has meaning it’s upsettingMetalsmithing is constrained by physicsTrump supporter in art school in southern illinois Tell the truth, even badlyOld JBP lecture: Three options in a relationship: tyrant, slave or negotiateArchetypes, trying to find the core storyRejection of symmetry is the rejection of meaningPeople who go to church regular don’t go out into the broader worldChurch isn’t the place for thinkingJBP uncorked the atheists unsure of religionAttending an orthodox church, the art, the spectacleLike that JBP won’t commitManner of speaking, Sam Harris vs JBPFelt the same way about Obama, Reading it isn’t so bad, but that way of speakingClass disparity Sargon of Akkad, milkshakes, MEP Alt right or working class?JBP is mixing the deck. Groups that usually don’t mixJBP talked to MiloIdentify as an attack helicopter

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An enduring debate in the Jordan Peterson phenomenon is whether or not he's a Christian. In this interview with Dennis Prager he again attempts to explain why he won't say he believes in God. I had heard this answer a number of times but this time I also came across a video explaining what Soren Kierkegaard, the father of existentialism believed a Christian was.

My conversation with Dr. James https://youtu.be/N030yZGvDbgJordan Peterson's interview with Dennis Prager https://youtu.be/L47oJxwp6ygTransliminal Channel with Dr. Steven Taubeneck on the roots of Existentialism https://youtu.be/g0flzyym9-YKierkegaard Biography https://www.amazon.com/Kierkegaard-Single-Life-Stephen-Backhouse-ebook/dp/B01863JMME#jordanpeterson #god #sorenkierkegaard

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We had this conversation just before my trip to Australia. Ian was nervous about it and asked me to take it down. Tim, his friend, convinced him it was worth sharing and I agree.

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I'll be making new presentations and leading discussions on Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life at the CS Lewis Society of California's Book Club June 5 and 19. Come join us. The events will be recorded.

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Tim shares his story.

Abusive step-fatherLived with his grandmother at 14Wasn't allowed to speak to his mother or know where they livedPartner got a government house to get out and smoke drugsFell in with a crowd taking drugsNot working, getting into drug dealing, harder drugsNO one lives in the moment like a heroin addict living in the streetsAt 27 in jailNed Kelly, bush-ranger outlaw, folklore heroGrandma was a Roman Catholic, Uncle like a father figure, shamanic anti-ChristianBeat poets, Hunter S ThompsonAfter jail tried to limit his drug consumptionCouch surfingPartner had found ChristFriend IanPeople in that lifestyle don’t know that you can live differentlyIan read philosophyFriendshipCommunity CollegeApprenticeshipGot clean, methadoneStage 4 non-Hodgkin lymphomaWent into ICU, wasn't going to liveCancer was a walk in the park compared to getting off heroinSupport from a catholic charityHad to get on opiates to fight cancerHad to get back on methadoneWould have to take 3 months offSave up enough money and holidays to take 3 months offWork caulkingLooking into Christianity because of the Jordan Peterson bible lecturesTold he couldn't have kidsStarted going to churchStarted to pray

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We check in again with Ron Dart who is editing a book on the Jordan Peterson phenomenon.

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Michael grew up Pentecostal. Gave up on faith and found it again partly by seeing and feeling loss. Found Jordan Peterson and me through him. We talk about faith, philosophy, Owen Barfield, reality, etc.

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Grew up Pentecostal but a skeptical nature5 year old asking God to let me flyGood father growing up, he was in touch with something realSkepticism reasserted itselfLoss of faith was disorientingNever found materialist view persuasiveRead new atheists and evangelical apologistsEverybody has an ax to grindShift was a lot of things collapsingBroke up with girlfriend, lost job, being overcome with emotionDavid foster wallace everybody worships, if you don’t choose it you will still worshipIn the middle of the pain there was something really good coming out of itThere’s got to be something out thereThe idea was an idea of redemptionIt felt real and vivid, overcome with a sense of beautyNew girlfriend, double dated with a new coupleNew friend who was a christian listening to Mark RuttlandFriend was in a tragic accident, ended up paralyzed from the neck downStarted visiting him at the hospitalStarted going to church again, not knowing what I believedKnew that God loved his friendStarted going to a small group with himAbout a year later found Jordan PetersonWas having emotional experiences but this gave a languageMade me realize that the part of me that was smart and cynical had something to gain by its nihilismI’m getting something from my nihilismDivine justiceCalvinismOwen BarfieldHumility of God. what does it cost god to create and redeemThe passion of God, the joy and the sorrowGratitude and wonder

 

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Carlos shares how his life changed through Opus Dei, how he found Jordan Peterson and what grabbed him about my videos.

Notes from the talkPhilippines 5amAssumed value of money makingCareer most important thing? NoUniversity where everyonoe worships darwin and marxGlad to not see the face of a priest everDidn’t declare atheist, just didn’t careEvangelical friendsGuest pastor from the usSermon was about love of christ, passion narratives, suffering, goryWhen will you have communion? Started going research on Christianity, Taken aback by uu take on RC eucharistRead RC apologetics, church fathers…RC and Orthodox are closer to historical beliefs…Noontime daily mass, 2 churches in the godless universityEucharistic miraclesI might start believing this if I saw a eucharistic miracleOpus deiPray to the saint, I need your help to know if Jesus is in the box“I need him” How to go to confessionFrom opus dei to jordan petersonSuspender video, had himself together, integrated personFirst thing: 3 hail Mary, get up every morning at the same timeMake a schedule in opus deiDaily office, Your schedule should fit your hand like a gloveYour schedule should be your friendOthers in opus dei listen to JBPBecause you’re a divine son of godRemember you’re a son of god, you should act like itMore of christ, less of youPrayer of absolutionFilipino to Opus Dei to JBP to reconciliation of heaven and earthBenedict optionWealthy successful and miserableThe successful people who are happy failed in some wayThe case of jpb is straightforward. All the gifts but faith has been withheld

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The Conference had breakout groups on the following topics. The groups met for about an hour to discuss their topics and these were the presentations given in the plenary session following. 1. How might women respond to the Peterson Phenomenon? 2. What challenges does the Peterson Phenomenon offer Christian theology and practice? 3. Sniffing the Breeze. Clues for connecting Peterson, Ecclesiastes and Paul for connecting and correcting culture. 4. Is God's grace and the Holy Spirit's presence missing from Jordan Peterson's scientific world view? 5. Where does personal faith in Jesus as Lord fit into this discussion? 6. How to use the media? What does the Peterson Phenomenon suggest for the future use of media for Christians? 7. What are the limits of Jordan Peterson's position? Are his Darwinianism and his Taoism fatal flaws? #jordanpeterson #jordanpetersonphenomenon #jordanpetersonchristianity

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