We are living in a new era of corruption, one that combines personal self-dealing and vast funds pouring into the political process. Whether it’s the crypto industry dominating Congress, the world’s wealthiest man bankrolling the winning presidential campaign, regulatory decisions used to pressure businesses, or the government quashing the bribery investigation of a top official, public power and private gain are fusing into one. Experts lay out a plan to end the culture of kleptocracy.

Speakers:

* Jane Mayer, Staff Writer, The New Yorker

* Daniel I. Weiner, Director, Elections and Government Program, Brennan Center

* Host, Michael Waldman, President and CEO

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Recorded on October 15, 2025.

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