Coming off of a major winter storm on the East Coast, Damon and Damo get a bit nostalgic. Enjoy. 

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Joined by Madison Farr, Damon and Damo sit down for a wide-ranging conversation on accountability, leadership, and the lasting effects of how Sailors are treated after mistakes. The episode opens with a brief check-in and an apology for a previous error before Madison shares her experiences in the Navy, including two separate Masts and a tragic incident that shaped how she viewed discipline, leadership, and her own career. The discussion covers fraternization, issues with her LPO, and the idea of not letting getting in trouble define you, along with what accountability should look like after NJP. Damon, Damo, and Madison talk through leadership responsibilities, the difference between consequences and abandonment, and what it means to do right by your people. Lighter moments include early Navy misadventures, her first time checking into a command, and reflections on the good moments from her time in uniform. The conversation also touches on warfare pin restrictions, Madison’s current work at MEPS, and what she sees from the other side of the accession process. In the Do Better segment, the guys discuss installation safety, matching energy, navigating transition, and the need for leadership to be less judgmental. The episode closes with Madison grading the Chiefs’ Mess, sharing her perspective on DRBs, weighing in on The Rip and Sinners and its record-breaking nominations, and offering feedback on what leaders can do better. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

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About our Guest:

Frank Rice Jr. is an award-winning filmmaker, director, and founder of FJR Films, blending over two decades of military leadership with cinematic artistry. A U.S. Navy veteran and Tyler Perry Dreamers Collective Top 100 Finalist, Frank has collaborated with a range of production companies and creative teams across the U.S. and Japan to produce emotionally resonant and visually striking work. His short films, The Tunnel, Quietus of Man, and Juncture, have garnered multiple international festival awards for their depth, storytelling, and craft. His latest project, JUMPER, (post-production) is an emotionally charged psychological film exploring themes of memory, redemption, and ancestral connection through poetic imagery and sound. Guided by collaboration, Frank partners with talented cinematographers, editors, and animators to bring layered, human stories to life.

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Damo opens the episode with a series of requests and demands before breaking down how one simple question from Aaron spiraled into a full meltdown. Look who popped out? Tisha jumps in to address a recent Facebook post aimed at women in the Navy, adding context and perspective. Aaron shares a few recommendations honoring the legacy of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.. The crew is joined by Frank Rice Jr., who talks through his career in the Navy and his parallel path as a filmmaker. Frank reflects on growing up in Chicago, his early Navy years, what pulled him toward film, and the influence of his father, an actor. He discusses working with Sony Records, whether he ever produced projects for the Navy, his directing style, dream projects, and the roles he’s most drawn to as a creator. The conversation also touches on casting, including whether Denzel Washington only plays one type of role, Frank’s dream cast, and whether a rom-com is in his future. Frank and Aaron share how they first connected, what attracts him to a project, and the leaders who inspired him to stay in the Navy. The group digs into leadership, accountability, DRB, unfounded complaints, relaxing standards, and what kind of Navy Frank was leaving behind. The episode closes with a discussion on the rise of Teyana Taylor and thoughts heading into the upcoming awards season. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

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***PLEASE READ** **CORRECTIONS**

Correction 1: “Weight measurements are required for ALL SAILORS regardless of Step-1 outcome.” - From PRP Guide-4. (Dec 2025)

Correction 2: “Waist measurements are to be measured at the umbilicus (belly button) from the right side of the body, keeping the tape parallel to the deck.” - From PRP Guide-4. (Dec 2025)

Troy Johnson pulled up to check the temperature after Aaron’s comments about ATG. Aaron was around so the guys were able to get into a bunch of things. Why would we not open an episode out primary about fitness with recollections of “big back” activities? Is there any feeling better than getting plans cancelled on you? Time to get back on that couch and chill. Speaking of “chilling,” we have to tip our hats to ‘Stranger Things.’ A 10-year run as a culturally iconic show on a streaming platform is not the easiest thing to do. The still could done our boy Caleb a little better. How much value should college have when it comes to Sailor of the Year boards? Are there any unwritten customs in the Navy that grinds your gears? Should Chiefs recite the ‘Chief’s Creed’ the same way we recite the ‘Sailor’s Creed?’ Should Sailors say the creed every day at quarters? The CNO recently held an All Hands Call and spoke about adding logic to leadership; the guys react. Are Meta Glasses authorized for wear in military uniforms? Should hardship rooms be available for Sailors who are dealing with lengthy domestic disputes? Is it time for AI to take over advancement or promotion boards? The guys finally get to these new PFA changes. Fortunately, Troy is here to make sure we don’t stray too far from policy. Can’t be football season without a little football talk. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

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Joined by Marc Tinaz, retired Limited Duty Officer Commander, the guys sit down for a wide-ranging conversation shaped by 33 years of Navy service and leadership across multiple eras. Marc reflects on how often the Navy has changed during his career, from uniforms and culture to expectations placed on leaders. The discussion explores the stressors of the retirement process, how senior leaders cope with bad news, and what it means to understand your role as a Command Master Chief fully. Throughout the episode, New Year’s resolutions surface naturally as the conversation touches on the value of awards, fairness versus leadership authority, and how decisions made in uniform stay with you long after the moment passes. Damo shares his NCM story, while Marc talks about his upbringing, early Navy journey, and the experiences that shaped how he leads. The guys also discuss difficult leadership realities, including CACO duty, drinking culture, behavioral health challenges, addressing negative trends, and the long-term effects of deployments, including Marc’s time in Iraq. They talk through why some experiences are rarely shared, how certain decisions become burned into memory, and what leadership looks like when you’re carrying those moments forward. Marc reflects on working with NASA, the highlight of his time as a Chief, the hardest transition he faced, and the best advice he’s received along the way. The episode closes with the Do Better segment, bringing the conversation back to leadership, responsibility, and growth on and off the uniform. These and More Topics are covered in this episode

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Marc’s Pick of the Week: No Higher Honor (Bradley Peniston)- https://www.navybook.com/no-higher-honor/

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Happy New Year to all of our viewers, listeners, and supporters.

The guys start the year off joined by April Beldo-Lilley, retired Fleet Master Chief of the U.S. Navy. April discusses her transition from uniformed service, her early upbringing, and the influence of her father. She discusses her decision to join the Navy, her early years in uniform, and key moments that shaped her career, including becoming Chief and realizing that the Navy would become a long-term profession. She reflects on serving as a Command Master Chief, including challenging moments, and offers the guys perspective on managing time and controlling their narratives. April also discusses reporting to an aircraft carrier during RCOH and her experiences leading in that environment. The conversation covers her time as Fleet Master Chief, including initiatives such as the eTablet and Sailor 2025, as well as discussions around multicultural committees, DACOWITS, and Chief Petty Officer board feedback. April shares her perspective on observing leaders she previously worked with later face public scrutiny, speaking from the standpoint of experience and proximity rather than speculation. The episode closes with a discussion of legacy, continued work beyond the Navy, and life after retirement, including marriage.

April’s Pick of the Week: The Let Them Theory (Mel Robbins) - https://www.melrobbins.com/book/the-let-them-theory/

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We had to pull up on y’all this Christmas, but please don’t call this a Christmas special. Damo finds himself in yet another sticky situation, this time it’s with Aaron. Before the results came out, the quotas were released, leaving many Sailors pissed about the low numbers. The guys discuss the disgust and what Billet-Based Advancement has to do with all of this. The Navy recently announced “The Trump Class,” complete with rail guns and laser beams. President Trump was feeling generous this holiday season and gave us two days off and “warrior dividends.” Oh yeah, what the hell are the Patriot Games? Why are people up in arms about the new PFA policy? Be careful what boots you’re stepping in, come Jan 1st, you may be out of regs. Jake Paul took a beating, and Sailors may be fixing their own trouble calls in the barracks soon. The guys try to take a deep dive into the new Sailor of the Year grading sheet. What are your “isms?” Debra Newton was arrested last week, or was her name Sharon? One Navy Sailor was arrested for killing his two roommates, who were also Sailors, in Jacksonville, FL. In our ‘Do Better’ segment, Damo wants some leaders to find some motivation, while Damon wants people to “train and explain.” The guys wrap with entertainment picks of the year. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

Pick of the Week: The War of Art (Steven Pressfield) https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

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Damon and Aaron are joined by OSC Kenneth Batchler for a conversation centered on his firsthand experience aboard the USS John S. McCain during the 2017 collision. Ken walks through the environment leading up to the incident, including operational tempo, fatigue, and the conditions present in the hours before the collision. The discussion covers what the moment of impact felt like from the deckplate, the immediate emotional response onboard, and how training and watchstanding took over once it became clear this was not a drill. Ken explains the purpose of General Quarters training, what was first heard over the 1MC, and how gaps in training, manning, and experience influenced the situation. The conversation moves into the after-action report, the challenges of forward-deployed operations, service in Japan, and the loss of shipmates. Damon and Aaron explore how the collision changed perspectives on training, accountability, and leadership, as well as how the USS John S. McCain became a reference point for future discussions on readiness. Later segments examine pre-collision versus post-collision operations, watch rotations, fatigue, training on new systems, and questions surrounding accountability. The episode also addresses mental health support after the collision, how the incident was portrayed publicly, whether leaders felt more empowered to speak up, and how the Navy changed following the 2017 collisions. The episode concludes with rapid-fire OS questions, discussion on the unique challenges faced by Operations Specialists, reflections on whether the collision would have occurred with today’s systems, and Ken’s #DoBetter message. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

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Aye, no long talk! Just check out this bonus episode. We love y'all and appreciate your continued support.

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The crew returns from the holiday break with a full plate of stories, starting with Thanksgiving hangovers and Aaron’s crockpot rebuttal that finally closes the loop from the last episode. The team moves into this week’s Do Better, covering everything from the need for a computer access POAM for CMCs to Damon’s latest run-in with the high-school system. They break down a recent article on the USS Truman and the importance of realistic observations in after-action reports before Damo steps in to double down on the FaceTime conversation. The guys discuss what it is, what it isn’t, and why some people get it all the way wrong. From there, the crew shifts into real life: friendships as adults, Damo gives his thoughts on ‘The Bump Serum’, and they discuss how the Netflix acquisition of Warner Bros. could change the entire streaming landscape. They close the first half of the show by comparing their Apple and Spotify Wrapped lists and debating who really had the top artists of the year. Damo wraps with his Pick of the Week before the episode transitions into a deeper, more personal segment—Damon sitting down to interview Damo in one of the most honest conversations the show has ever had. These and more topics are covered in this episode.

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