This week I am joined by British-Malaysian comedian, author, podcaster and cautious coffee lover Phil Wang.

Phil has just wrapped up a run of shows at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and joined me before he set off for the US.

In this episode we talk about the craft of stand-up comedy, go deep on both of our individual experiences on Taskmaster and while in the process of working out what really s**ts Phil discover the one thing that all humans should’ve evolved to have.

Follow Phil on Instagram @wangpix and Twitter @PhilNWang and head to philwang.co.uk for more on his book and Netflix special

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