What does it take to be a mogul? Tyra Banks knows. The model/author/producer/goddess tells Phoebe about her earliest runway days, raising her son, and her ever-changing definition of "beauty". Plus, she brings her mom into the studio!

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About the podcast: 

Phoebe Robinson is tired of being the token black woman in an ocean of white dude comedians. So in this podcast, Phoebe’s calling the shots. She hosts intimate, funny and super honest conversations with musicians, actors, writers and comedians who are killing it in their fields—AND who aren’t white dudes! Stay tuned for the one token white guy (it’s only fair), cameos by Phoebe’s ball-busting executive producer Ilana Glazer, and a whole lot of hijinks.

Catch up on Phoebe's other hit podcast, 2 Dope Queens: www.2dopequeens.org

Produced by WNYC Studios. www.wnycstudios.org