This episode is a recorded phone call by an NPE to his mom. Jeff Frame, a documentary filmmaker, found out 8 years ago that the abusive father he thought was his dad, wasn't. A day and a half later, he called his mom to confront her. This is that call.  No edits, just the straight phone call. It's raw, it's emotional and maybe triggering for some people.

I am not a therapist by any means and do not condone nor condemn what Jeff did or said  while he was so hurt and ripped open.  But I think hearing their conversation will deepen our understanding into the complexities of finding out your dad isn't your dad and the decisions that were made to hide that from NPEs.

You can follow Jeff on instagram @jeffmakesjokes

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