In PX38, Jess Noonan and Peter Jewell interview Dr Elizabeth Taylor (RMIT) and David Nichols (Melb. Uni). Elizabeth and David produce 'This Must be the Place', an urban planning/history podcast also produced in Melbourne. In this 'cross interview' with our podcasting 'cousins' we talk about the divide between the academic world of planning and the 'practising' world of planning. The discussion ranges across the different spheres of planning and how academic research can be made more relevant and applied to the practising world of planning. Discussions also include observations on the pressures within the academic world and the nature of contemporary students, finishing off with an outlook on how technology is changing the workplace and world. Podcast released 5 June 2018. Technical production by Zak Willsallen of Complete Podcast Services. For more information go to www.planningxchange.org.