Today Em sits down to chat with Aussie singer, songwriter, producer, performer, gamer, activist and former Eurovision contestant, Montaigne, aka Jessica Cerro about their first independent album ‘It’s Hard to Be a Fish’.

It’s being described as a strange, tender epic - a record about family, survival, disconnection and the slow work of becoming whole. Em described it as looking directly into the sun and one of the most beautiful things she has ever heard.

Together they discuss how the new album successfully brings together the trio of dealing with the mother wound, late-stage capitalism, and environmental catastrophe through the lens of pop music. Covering everything from the impact of intergenerational trauma, particularly from her Filipino heritage, and her decision to go no-contact with her mother, through to microdosing mushrooms, being an independent artist in today’s music industry, their Eurovision experience and so much more.

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service, Emsolation Extra, Michael comes bearing gifts for Em, they discuss the new ‘Superman’ movie and Michael’s deep love of the franchise, his mum visiting the set of his partner Adrian's new movie and the Mushroom trial.

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It’s the Netflix movie that’s taken over Em’s entire personality and you better believe we are gonna be talking about it A LOT - ‘K-Pop Demon Hunters’. Michael’s seen it and is ready to give his feedback too.

Then after a full ‘K-Pop Demon Hunters’ gush, it’s onto Elio’s recent betrayal during a visit to the park and how it also inspired Em’s campaign against whoever created the centre seam on leggings. Plus Michael is keen to discuss the end of times that was the wedding between Amazon owner Jeff Bezos and media personality and astronaut Lauren Sanchez.

The gross display of excessive wealth reportedly cost over 50 million dollars and saw over 90 private jets flying into Venice with guests like Leonardo DiCaprio, Orlando Bloom, Oprah and the Kardashians turning up for it too.

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It's an Emsolation episode for the ages! Em and Michael are back in the studio and we're talking all things Rom-Coms with a deep dive (and some spoilers!) into Dakota Johnson, Pedro Pascal, and Chris Evans' new movie, ‘Materialists’. What happens when Em, Michael, his husband Adrian, and his mum Jo, rock up to a screening of the 2025 edition of a rom-com?

You’re about to find out as Em and Michael give you their full review, plus Em reveals why one scene in particular absolutely sent her, so much so that she posted about it on her socials. Plus, Em's shocking dental saga is about to come to a glorious conclusion, and we look at who has and hasn’t been nominated for this year's Logies, including our very own Michael.

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em’s been watching Season 2 of ‘America’s Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders’ and Michael’s husband Adrian has started filming his first feature film, a horror movie called ‘Leviticus’.

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Here’s your exclusive sampler of what’s on offer inside our Sealed Section on our premium service Emsolation Extra this week. There’s MUCH to discuss, in fact there is so much to discuss that Em and Michael have to gloss over some of it, like J’Lo’s very high cut “tuck” for her performance at World Pride.

Then it’s onto Em’s latest obsession, Donald Trump’s military parade for his birthday, from how much it cost, to its lacklustre turnout, and the huge crowds who instead turned up for the “No King” protests on the same day.

Then we have to cut it before we get into chatting about the situation unfolding in Los Angeles, plus Em and Michael discuss Em’s role in the new Pixar film ‘Elio’. They review the movie and talk about the premiere, as well as the realities of Em taking her son Elio to see it with her too.

Finally they discuss Katy Perry’s Melbourne concert with the help of comedian Joel Creasey, plus Emsolator Hayden gives us his review of the concert and reveals what it was like being at the gay club that Katy turned up to after the show as well.

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It’s the reunion we’ve all been waiting for since they connected and cried together during the ‘Wicked’ press tour. Now, with her brand new album ‘I Forgive You’ finally available to download and stream, Em reunites with one of her personal heroes, the one and only Cynthia Erivo.

Together they revisit the tears that somehow had the whole world crying (or weirdly in some cases seething with anger). There’s also chat about Cynthia’s recent Coachella performance, the elite level of her attire on the day and why the ‘Waiting to Exhale’ soundtrack is the best movie soundtrack EVER!

Then it’s on to reviewing and discussing her new album ‘I Forgive You’, which Em has had an advance copy of that she’s been playing on repeat. Naturally Em’s gone deep in her analysis and review of it, MUCH to Cynthia’s utter joy, so prepare to discover layers to the album you might have missed, and hear about the inspiration and difficulty of writing and recording it.

Finally Em also manages to squeeze in a quick chat about Cynthia hosting the upcoming Tony Awards and also how not ready she is to witness Cynthia and Ariana Grande take on ‘For Good’ in Wicked 2, with Cynthia offering some VERY useful advice about seeing the movie.

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em and her bestie Michael talk baby goats, Lady Gaga’s Tudum appearance, new season ‘Wednesday’ and ‘Hacks’, plus they dive into the controversy over Patti Lupone’s latest interview.

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We begin this deep dive by analysing the recent American Music Awards hosted by Jennifer Lopez, aka J’Lo. There’s the sniff of MAGA about the entire show plus the obsession for famous women of a certain age, like J’Lo, Gloria Estefan, Gwen Stefani & Janet Jackson, to not actually age. There’s a side quest into Lindsay Lohan’s restorative juicing routine, plus all the other AMA “moments” worth reflecting.

The ageless divas obsession also brings up how much women are expected to do, with a side quest into the Human Rights lawyer who recently ran and won an ultramarathon, whilst breast feeding her 6 month old baby along the route, because of course she did.

Then it’s onto the problematic history of Dolce and Gabbana before we ‘Okay, Stop!’ the new D&G fragrance commercial with Theo James. Then Em gives us her one page TED talk on why it’s okay to be ogling Theo James. In our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em hilariously details how she shot her own nude photo shoot alone in her office after hours to launch her new book cover.

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The whirlwind US tour won and done, Em and Michael are back on home turf at Down the Hill Studios and getting up close and personal whilst comparing bicep bulges…wait is this real life? Has this become a toxic bro podcast without us even realising it?

Speaking of toxic, the Weeknd has a new movie out called ‘Hurry Up Tomorrow’, he wrote it, produced it and stars in it with Jenna Ortega. The Daily Beast called it a “feature length ego stroke of monumental hubris and the worst film of the year” so naturally Em and Michael are mad keen to discuss it and watch it.

Then we’re talking sport…wait, what? Yep, only because Em is living for the fact a gay men’s group called the Bears Perth have been inundated with interstate membership requests after the NRL announced WA’s very first NRL team, the Perth Bears, perfect.

There’s also side quests into Susan Boyle, Em’s upcoming book release and her residency singing with her band and friends every Monday in July at the Brunswick Ballroom, tickets are on sale NOW!

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em and Michael discuss the Netflix comedy series ‘The Four Seasons’, the shock breakup of the Liberal-National Coalition, Chris Jenner’s face, Amy Poehler’s podcast and so much MORE!

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It’s the whirlwind tour of the US that we’ve all been hanging out for, now it’s time for Em and Michael to drop all the details on their most eventful holiday EVER! We begin with the original reason for the tour, Em’s tour of the Pixar Studios in San Francisco for their upcoming animated film ‘Elio’, in which Em voices the character of “Female Co-Worker A”.

From touring the Pixar Cafe and sampling their world famous bacon, through to meeting the women who helped create the movie and talking Australian birds and spiders with one of the movie’s animators, it was easily a lifetime achievement for Em.

Then we get to hear Michael recount his side of their night on Broadway watching Sarah Snook in ‘The Picture of Dorian Gray’ and hanging with icons Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, Rob Lowe, Gayle King and Jackie Weaver. There’s also dinner at Taylor Swift’s favourite Italian restaurant, and their night witnessing Andrew Scott (the hot priest from ‘Fleabag’) singing Broadway tunes and holding Chella’s hand.

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em and Michael discuss their night at Beyonce’s Cowboy Carter tour, plus there’s other bonus material too saucy for our main episode!

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On Monday night Em and Michael celebrated the 2 year anniversary of Emsolation going independent by doing a live stream of the podcast. Understandably not everyone could be there for it, so we’ve assembled some of our favourite moments from the full hour of hilarity for you to enjoy.

Inside Em and Michael chat about the election result and what Anthony Albanese needs to do next, and even what the future holds for the Liberal party and Peter Dutton. Em reveals her algorithm is serving her reels of slow-mo rugby men and guys in spandex doing backflips, Michael also introduced Em to the abs of former rugby player and independent politician David Pocock.

They also talk about their last minute trip this week to the US and took your questions answering if they got Lady Gaga tickets and will they be doing more ‘Okay, Stop!’ segments and so much more. Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em and Michael reveal all the details about why they’re off to the US and everything they plan to do while there and it’s a LOT!

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Michael Paynter is one of Em’s best friends, they’ve worked together on her music, he also has mad singing skills (best believe that he is a SING-GER!) which he’s currently showing off 8 times a week, playing Jesus in the latest version of the Andrew Lloyd Webber rock opera ‘Jesus Christ Superstar’.

Together they’ll discuss his awe inspiring take on the role of Jesus, from why he chose to accept the gig, the part Mahalia Barnes played in his decision, through to the enormity of taking on this kind of role and the emotional toll it takes on him during each performance.

Plus Em asks him how he prepares himself before a show and what it’s like to take on a musical like this when he’s never even acted or done musical theatre before.

Then in our Sealed Section, on our premium service Emsolation Extra, Em and Michael Paynter give you an extra 35 minutes where they discuss how they first met, their shared love of John Peter Farnham and both of them work their way through a bunch of hilarious and revealing rapid fire questions.

Michael will also truly captivate you and prove his status as a SING-GER by singing his favourite John Farnham song ‘Burn For You’.

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