In PX19, Jess Noonan and Peter Jewell interview David Song and Dan Bowden co directors of Song Bowden planning consultants. Both Dave and Dan are experienced planning consultants who represent both the private and government sector. They appear regularly at VCAT, the Victorian Tribunal which considers planning disputes. In a broad ranging interview the double D's discuss what brought them together, working as a team, the strengths in difference and their take on how the planning system muddles through challenging times. Both subjects are candid in their answers and provide zesty and thoughtful insights into some very serious planning topics.  Music: Intro - Breezy House by Qronix. Outro - Spooky by Dusty Springfield (Quinten 909 Extended Mix). Podcast released in August 2016. For more details go to www.planningxchange.org