Laurie is joined by Kevin Leroy. Kevin has spent his life exploring and studying with many indigenous people, across the globe. One thing that stands out for him are that these so called “primitive peoples” are probably the happiest, longest living humans on the planet. Kevin seeks to build a bridge where teachings and tools that have served humanity for many thousands of years can be accessed and integrated into society in a practical and accessible way. Of course, they discuss how to support people finding just the right plant medicine for the ultimate goal of a happier, sexier life.