As we get older, it’s easy to forget how much we need play in our lives, even (perhaps especially) when we’re going through tough times. This episode may help change that. Artist Shantell Martin shares her joyful approach to art and explains why everyone should draw; author and “Terrible, Thanks for Asking” host Nora McInerny tells us how playtime helped her and her young son after her husband’s death; and soccer legend Abby Wambach breaks down what it really means to be a team player and a champion for other women.

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