Dale and Liam discuss the life and political strides Fa'anānā Efeso Collins, and what will come next for the Green Party after his death. And reshuffles are also on the horizon for the Labour Party after Grant Robertson announced his retirement.

Dale Husband is a long time broadcaster and Radio Waatea presenter hosting a Maori focused current affairs programme.

Liam Hehir is a Palmerston North lawyer, political commentator and a National Party member.

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