Matthew and Stephen discuss the growing expectation for a move to level 2, given the number of daily cases of Covid-19 is consistently in single figures. Matthew Hooton is an Auckland based consultant and lobbyist. Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research and former political adviser to two Labour governments.

Matthew and Stephen discuss the growing expectation for a move to level 2, given the number of daily cases of Covid-19 is consistently in single figures.

Matthew Hooton is an Auckland based consultant and lobbyist.

Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research and former political adviser to two Labour governments.

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