Brigitte Morten and Neale Jones join Kathryn to look at whether the PM has made a misstep over hate speech, is it part of a desire to speed up action on some changes - and what are the risks in that?

Brigitte Morten and Neale Jones join Kathryn to look at whether the PM has made a misstep over hate speech, is it part of a desire to speed up action on some changes - and what are the risks in that?

Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.

Brigitte Morten is a senior consultant with public and commercial law firm Franks & Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government.

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