Brigitte and Neale join Kathryn to dissect what was in last week's Budget - are there any extra votes in it for Labour, and what was the Opposition's reaction to what's been dubbed the "blowout Budget"? They'll also discuss the worsening debt situation and pressure on interest rates. Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is a director of public affairs firm Capital. Brigitte Morten is a director with public and commercial law firm Franks Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government, a National Party member and currently volunteering for the party's deputy leader, Nicola Willis.

Brigitte and Neale join Kathryn to dissect what was in last week's Budget - are there any extra votes in it for Labour, and what was the Opposition's reaction to what's been dubbed the "blowout Budget"?

They'll also discuss the worsening debt situation and pressure on interest rates.

Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is a director of public affairs firm Capital. Brigitte Morten is a director with public and commercial law firm Franks Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government, a National Party member and currently volunteering for the party's deputy leader, Nicola Willis.

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