Neale, Brigitte and Kathryn discuss Grant Robertson's letter to the Reserve Bank, and the furore surrounding Oranga Tamariki.

Neale, Brigitte and Kathryn discuss Grant Robertson's letter to the Reserve Bank, and the furore surrounding Oranga Tamariki.

Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.

Brigitte Morten is a senior consultant with public and commercial law firm Franks & Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government.

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