Our political commentators Neale Jones and Trish Sherson talk to Kathryn about a big day for Cabinet weighing up whether to move from Level 4 lockdown to level 3. Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

Our political commentators Neale Jones and Trish Sherson talk to Kathryn about a big day for Cabinet weighing up whether to move from Level 4 lockdown to level 3.

Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.

Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

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